Oh yeah, kael surely has so much variety in his talents, yeah, 100%, he surely doesn’t have only 1 good talent on each tier…
You mean Kael has 1 bad talent on every tier.
The other 2 are generally competitive with each other.
Burned Flesh has a 49% winrate and a 41% pickrate, compared to SKF’s 48% winrate and 53% pickrate.
Pyromaniac has a 50% winrate and a 53% pickrate, compared to Fission Bomb’s 48% winrate and 35% pickrate.
Sure, he certainly doesn’t have the best build diversity and some of his individual tiers are pretty crappy, but I’m not sure I would call it “very bad” overall.
Maybe you could argue that KT could use a rework, but I’m highly skeptical that he needs one.
3 Likes
Ohh god, PLZ no, no, NO! Don’t touch the deer again.
Last time she got a totally unneeded rework she was made so brainded User friendly it even upsetted me.
And yet, ppl still don’t like her.
I fear if they touch her again she’s gona be made into some even more generic brainded flat dmg mage or even worse.
1 Like
You know it’s bad when people are more afraid of reworks than excited for their favorite hero to maybe be S-tier.
1 Like
Apart from a bit of work to be done on Q-build, Lunara is fine as is.
2 Likes
Valeera and Uther imo. Point and click with low cd is not fun.
Illidan need his Warcraft III concept and the current concept is more suitable for a Female Demon Hunter.
Arthas need rework, his efficiency must be improved as a main tank.
Medivh’s talent are under performing.
And Probius from the main list.
1 Like
Illidan is mostly fine. His kit is really fluid and functional which is pretty uncommon for such an old hero. His talent tree is also pretty well designed. Reworking him for extraneous reasons like the prevalence of mass CC is not the solution since chain CC messes up everything that isn’t Diablo or Stitches. Just slap 1s unstoppable on his trait and he’s good.
Search your feelings. You know it to be true. 
Lt. Morales and Probius, possibly Uther aswell to cut a few years off his back.
100% agreed
Now let’s back back waaaaaaaaaaaaay the hell up.
Illidan can really pop off when the enemy team doesn’t have hard cc or massive burst to deal with him. Giving him unstoppable baseline sounds like it’d be awful to deal with because now you have to worry about timing your cc perfectly on top of trying to hit an Illidan who has two dashes.
Just handing out armor and unstoppable to unpopular heroes isn’t the answer to chain cc.
What we need is global nerfs. 
I agree too, his current concept is really potential and fine and I want this concept of illidan to be preserved, but I think it would be interesting if we give this concept to a Female Demon Hunter and creating a new concept for illidan.
Nova
Butcher
Li Li
Valeera
Kerrigan
2 Likes
No, i mean that he doesn’t have anything but 1 build:
Mana Addict + Nether Wind + Burned Flesh + Pyromaniac + Fury of the Sunwell + Flamethrower
What do you mean?
- Kerrigan
- Probius
- Nova
- Whitemane (Yes. She has been reworked once. But it isn’t good).
- Genji (Just give him a Dash Reset similar to Overwatch)
But he has been top tier since release, the most picked Ranged Assassin and the 3rd most picked hero in the game (after Gazlowe and D.Va). Why should he be reworked tho?
4 Likes
Butcher (on its way)
Valeera
Nova
And for now, I don’t want to list more.
1 Like
No, god, please no, no!
It would make him good though, yes? But true, giving unstoppable isn’t something that should just be handed out. Giving an option to talent into something helping against some form of CC is another thing. At least the sweep quest should be looked into, takes too long.
Hard CC is kinda tricky to balance since it’s always worth its price. If you nerf it across board, people will just draft more of it. Add cooldowns to how often a hero can be stunned? Now everyone has built in unstoppable and suddenly cleanse loses a lot of its value. Also, some of the more readily available stuns have been nerfed one way or another, like ETC, BW and Uther. Maybe Deckard next?
1 Like
When I said global nerfs I just meant small tweaks to numbers of every hero with notable CC and the overall survivability on a number of heroes that actively need to be CCd when you want them to die.
2 Likes