Who should be reworked (Poll)

tbf Tass was fundamentally degenerate
Inflated winrate from being a Tracer shieldbot
With how low his damage was and with what they did to his Q there wasn’t much salvaging it anymore.

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You missed “or have very bad talent tree” in my comment.

Both of them were useless. They did a good job.

Oh there would have been plenty of ways to save at least the concept, rework him in a way that didn’t create a brand new hero who just so happens to have a wall.
but instead they took the easy way out like cowards, kinda like every rework Overwatch has ever done.

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You know… except making them unrecognizeable to the people who actually found enjoyment in them.

Oh yeah, it’s better to not rework useless heroes because few players find them “enjoyable” than make these heroes viable.

Settle down both of y’all, whether or not those reworks were good or not, they happened. I’m not saying any characters need a rework in that manner, but it’s inevitable it will happen.

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  1. Whitemane (Full revert of last rework)
  2. Tyrande (Full revert of last rework)
  3. Ana (more some talent shift to re-establish tension between Dart and Grenade build, plus making Grenade talents more interesting)

Don´t really know who to put as 4 and 5.

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No, she was broken.

No, she was even less playable

She’s fine. But maybe she needs some talent buffs, not sure.

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Because if there’s going to be nothing left that those players enoyed and it’s goign to be unrecognizeable, why not ust make a new hero with the kit that would ahve bene a rework?
Answer? Because lazy

Or you know cause 90% including their main art director was fired/left

But ok

AS if the game needed a generic Mage with skill shot… or… whatever Gazlowe is supposed to be.

  1. Valeera, only good for silencing people atm.
  2. Genji, half the talents are garbage.
  3. Morales, unimpactful and simply not fun to play.
  4. Kerrigan, needing 2 skills for a stun is outdated design.
  5. Nova, lacks direction and is simply meh.

Also popular opinion: Gazlowe, Whitemane and Tassadar reworks are actually fine. Dunno about Tyrande, every iteration of her has been super boring to play. I just assume that it’s her thing now.

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What? Why Zeratul?..

Weird. Wasn’t aware that they changed Butcher’s name to “No one”

Lulnara.

Because that would have done nothing to deal with the issue of Tassadar’s shield

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Talent reworks:

  • Abathur
    • Locust talents feel near useless in higher ranks
    • Symbiote talents are practically the only viable talents
    • Heroes enabled purely just from Symbiote is a problem for a lot of players
    • Monstrosity desperately needs something to contest Ultimate Evolution
  • Artanis
    • Talent tree isn’t particularly bad, it’s just that there isn’t that many strong talents on most of his tiers
    • His lack of hard CC is okay in my eyes, as long as he has tools to survive and excel in other areas so he can be fairly compensated for the weakness I listed
Artanis ch...ch...ch...changes...

Abilities

  • Twin Blades range increased from 2.5 to 3
    • Now receives additional functionality…
      • Gain 10% Movement Speed for 2 seconds after casting Twin Blades.
  • Phase Prism is no longer a stationary channel
    • Now gains additional functionality…
      • Gain 15 Armor for 2 seconds when swapping positions with an enemy Hero.
  • Purifier Beam cast delay reduced from 2 seconds to 1.5 seconds
    • NOTE: This also applies to the retargeted beam if Target Purified is picked.

Trait

  • Shield Overload receives the following changes…
    • Shield activation threshold increased from 75% to 85%
    • Shield amount reduced from 385 to 375

Talents

Lvl 1

  • Reactive Parry receives the following changes…
    • Physical Armor granted when hitting Heroes with the second slash increased from 1 to 2
    • Maximum charges increased from 2 to 4

Lvl 4

  • Psionic Synergy receives new functionality…
    • Increase the range of Phase Prism by 15%.
    • Hitting an enemy Hero with Phase Prism now only swaps Artanis half the distance he is from the moment the ability connects.
  • Shield Battery receives the following changes…
    • Cooldown reduction rate increased from 125% to 150%
    • Bonus Shield duration increased from 1 second to 2 seconds

Lvl 7

  • Solarite Reaper receives additional functionality…
    • Increase the range of Blade Dash by 15%.

Lvl 13

  • Graviton Vortex receives the following changes…
    • No longer reduces Phase Prism’s Mana cost
    • Cooldown reduction decreased from 1.75 seconds to 1.5 seconds
      • Now receives additional functionality…
        • Phase Prism pulls and damages an additional enemy Hero near the first. Enemy Heroes lose 15 Armor for 2 seconds after swapping places with Artanis.

Lvl 16

  • Titan Killer receives the following changes…
    • Bonus damage from Basic Attacks increased from 0.5% to 1%
    • Bonus damage from Twin Blades increased from 1.5% to 2%

Lvl 20

  • Plasma Burn receives the following changes…
    • Damage increased from 70 to 78
    • Now receives additional functionality…
      • Remove the Health threshold for Shield Overload to activate.
  • Kel’Thuzad
    • He’s just a mess honestly
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Artanis, Arthas, Butcher, Nazeebo and Nova.

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A hero that needs to wait to level 20 to be OP but is unuseful before and that absolute destroys comps if they make a mistake in draft is not a healty hero. He works but could work even better with a rework. Also has exactly the same trait as Nova.

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Cleave Build is good as soon as level 4.

But yeah, that’s totally fair coughs in Naz

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I seriously wish Naz had vile infection baseline but nerfed/adjusted of course, so it scaled properly.

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I’ve said this on the forums for years, but people have always dismissed it. I really don’t like the design of Nazeebo, Vile Infection dominates his level 20’s (if you stack) and getting those stacks can encourage some bad and annoying playing habits in some Naz players.

Pleased to know I’m not the only one who thinks Kerrigan needs a rework. Although she got a rework about 3 (?) years ago, she still feels so old fashioned and is mostly picked in ranked on Shrines map.

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