Who is the weakest hero (Lore )

Square-Cube Law is almost common sense in physics, but often grossly misappropiated in biology.

Most laymans see it as “LARGE CREATURES ARE IMPOSSIBRU CUZ PHYZICZ!!!”. However, it’s not so much that, as much as everything about the creature will need to be, for a lack of a better word, different then a smaller creature. Note that Robert Wadlow was recorded to only weigh 200 kg - A comparitive lightweight considering his overall height.

Do note that muscles and bones are signficantly different in between species. A Troll/Tauren would likely weigh signficantly more then a human that’s the same height.

I like how you used kilograms instead of pounds, perhaps to mislead, but whatever. Robert Wadlow weighed 490 pounds by the time he died, and he was 8’11", not nearly the amount needed to hit the 10’ proposed earlier.

What you also failed to mention, is that Robert Wadlow required leg braces and a cane to walk, and died by age 22, and not only that, but even walking became extremely painful and that this is a common side effect of becoming too large.

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Probius is made of metal and can use its mineral cutting tools to electrocute you, which is more than what deckard can do. How big is a probe compared to a human? Pretty sure they’d at least be the same size.

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Nice try, but wrong. Lili was trained by her uncle and actually goes by the nickname “crazy dog” due to her unconventional fighting style.
It’s debatable where exactly she is on the list, but definitely not at the bottom.

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Metric system is superior to US standard for anything remotely involving physics. But since you seem to want to discuss in US standard, sure.

The point that I was trying to make with Robert Wadlow was that for his overall height, he was an extreme lightweight compared to other creatures with similar proportions - As similar as they can get. Given the near complete lack of other bipedal mammalian species, bears would likely be the closest example of what proportions a tall humanoid would need to have - Different skeletal structure and musculature, sure, but a humanoid species with an average height of 8-10 feet would likely weigh close to half a ton, which is what most large bears weigh - Twice as much as what Robert Wadlow would weigh.

So rather then dismissing the idea of Tauren and Trolls, it would be signficantly more… equivocal to assume that Tauren would weigh a half-ton or over, and that Trolls, despite their relative lankiness, would also weigh signficantly more then what a human would of the same height (So lets say average Tauren weighs 900-1200 lbs, average non-Zandalari troll weighs 600-700 lbs).

Similarly, rather then outright dismissing the idea of a creature with Godzilla-like proportions, it would be better to assume that Godzilla-like creatures would likely weigh in the hundreds of thousands of tons, if not millions.

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Mass Fairy Dragon actually is a thing in Warcraft 3. Fairy Dragons are responsible for the massacre of countless undead hoardes, being especially proficient at slaughtering necromancers.

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I’d also like to add that brightwing always talks about hurting, killing, and apparently also eats humans. Not to mention the amount of magic she probably could use to mess ppl up.

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Brightwing always endup on top of the food chain lol.
@1:35

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…I mean… Hoku isn’t wrong lol.

So, that’s kind of the running joke with Illidan. In Warcraft Illidan is pretty much about as humble and respectful as Alarak, Illidan is all buff and sinister and Illidan has these supposedly OP glaives and was master of essentially what is another dimension full of other beings like major demons and whatnot…

but…

Yeah… From that point on all Illidan really does is beat up on nameless demon #32453422111 which is a grunt demon, while retaining the Alarak-like attitude towards the player…

To be fair, Arthas (or The Lich King to be precise) is uh… well he’s a pretty giant stud. Even when The Lich King loses, he doesn’t really lose… I didn’t see the most powerful lore-wise discussion but I’m sure Arthas was up there.

Dr. Logan… Come on Dr. Logan… Be honest here… How did Tassadar kill The Overmind again? :wink: I 100% agree Tass isn’t the weakest or close to it, Protoss mind-powers and whatnot, but strongest!? Diablo and Mephisto are like… gods… Edit: Nevermind, Dr. Logan. You’re going to always say Tass is strongest and I recognize and respect that lol

I’d have to say Deckard. Sure, he’s survived a lot but he’s old now. He held off skeletons… but that’s like beating Xul’s minions in HotS, any hero could do that lol. I imagine if you kinda push Deckard over he’d break a hip.

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Murky.
Despite Cain being an old man with no seen combat abilities, he’s ludicrously hard to kill. He’s spent his entire life traveling to the worst places in the Diablo world and digging up ancient lore. And the Diablo world is nasty, there isn’t a single place that isn’t packed full of horrific monsters. Even the few cities have everyplace that is not actively patrolled and cleared out by armed men infested with monsters.

Even in D3, when he’s in his 90s, he shrugged off a collapsing floor dumping him several levels into an even more skeleton filled dungeon.

Murky, comparatively, needs to be escorted and protected from the native wildlife. And it’s clear that WoW’s level system doesn’t reflect the canonical strength, if it did W3 would have ended as soon as they reached Northrend when the natives obliterate Arthas, Illidan, and the rest.

And yes, while Cain was killed by Maghda the annoying butterfly lady was depicted as being fairly powerful by Diablo standards.

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Wait, Diablo wasn’t defeated by a guy armed with frogs? I’m pretty sure Tass is strongest than a group of demons that can be harmed by arrows and swords.

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I cant really think of any character in the diablo universe that could live through a psyonic storm lol

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Or a gauss rifle, that guns hit really hard, i’m pretty sure Raynor would be like Doomslayer in Diablo’s universe.

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I think you might be underselling the Nephalem by just a little bit lol. There were normal guys that tried the whole sword and arrow thing all throughout the Diablo games… Didn’t work out well for them and they didn’t even fight a prime evil.

As to the first part, have you ever fought a guy willing to throw frogs at you in a fight? Trust me, that’s not an individual you wanna get physical against, nevermind how he seemingly carries an unending supply of frogs to throw at anything… That’s a confrontation you wanna avoid:

Insert - How nature says, “Do not touch.” - Farside comic/Gary Larsen

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Cain may be elderly and frail…
Li Li may be a child without any combat training…
Tracer may have “trouble existing” without that thing on her chest…
…But Stukov is literally dead.

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how does leoric compares to him then ?
is he dead’er ? :joy:

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Fair point. Leoric is like mega-dead compared to Stukov. :stuck_out_tongue:

I guess the difference would be that Leoric is mad whereas Stukov is suicidal. I feel like Stukov would probably let Leoric put him out of his misery.

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I hate to admit it but the weakest hero would be Deckard Cain.

And Marine’s hight-tech rifles do like 6 damage, so… :stuck_out_tongue:

I have to agree with the people saying Cain is weakest.
Sure, he’s not just a regular old man, but he’s (lore-wise) not at the level of other characters.

He might have survived the falling cathedral and being captured by demons in D2 and those skelletons attacking him… Hes a though old man, but I don’t think he ver won a fight in the lore, did he?

Now, if we go for the “without equipment” version some have suggested, then I guess it would be Probius, 'cause he wouldn’t even exist :laughing:

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