I was wondering something, do you think Tyrande deserve a small buff to her basic attack range? I mean, her range is 6, and a standard AA range for a ranged heroes is 5.5, so I was wondering if it will be a good idea to increase her range a little. From 6 to 6.5. I think just increasing her basic attack range to 6.5 will allow her to play a little bit safer, just a little bit.
What do you think of that little buff suggestion Blizzard? Personally, I like it.
That would put her on Par with raynor and Nova, Maybe attack speed?
or both, but right now maybe she only needs slight healing buffs on her q or just nothing at all
Hanzo, Raynor and Nova’s range is 6.5, but Tyrande’s range is 6. All I was asking is buffing her basic attack range, not her basic attack speed.
That would make her more viable in QM of all things. At the moment her range makes it so that you either have a solid frontline and can reach your pick’s full potential, or end up in a team with a single bruiser for protection, putting yourself in the face of danger for scarce healing.
From my understanding shes avg when it comes to the meta. Any buffs could make her tier S again but i doubt this would do it.
I don’t think buffing her range will make her op, it will just allow her to play a little bit safer.
I know, I’m the kind of guy that some details can drive me nut. Like that one, when I realized that she doesn’t have the same range than Raynor, Ana, Hanzo, Nova and Tassadar
that would be nice if her range is increased indeed. she wouldn’t become op at all as it’s just her AA Range not Range + Damage specially since she doesn’t deal that much of an AA Damage so this small buff will definitely make her a bit safer
Exactly, I want that buff for her for a very long time.
If you put her to 6.5 AA range or even 7.0, she will just be a better solo healer since her AA’ing increases her Q heal output.
You can even compensate by slightly lowering her AA damage, she would still benefit and not be overpowered since she could perform her role better (give more heals to teammates).
i agree. she would clearly be a better solo healer in that case.
Yeah I think an attack range increase would be nice. It find it very difficult to be consitently aa-ing enough as her. I dont play her a lot, but the long cooldown of her heals make constant autoattacks mandatory, and with her short range she just isn’t able to to that. Sure if I was a better player I could, but a little longer range wouldn’t hurt in helping her out a bit
I like it because I find it painful to play her. There’s so much burst and CC that she can get blown up very easily. I’m not sure a flat buff would be good but maybe tie it to her trait? Something where for the duration of her trait she gains AA range? It makes those talents that reset and extend the duration better too.
She needs to land autos to get CD reductions tho. It’s core to her gameplay and she’s too squishy to spend significant time close to the fight AAing. It’s not like she does lots of damage with AAs until 16 either.
You would need to at least nerf her Q cdr for that.
Or maybe have it as a later game talent or merging it with a talent?
I would add that we and the devs must be careful about those “increase range” demands.
There was a time where ranged heroes had too much range and had to be nerfed accross the board because some part of the game were becoming unbearable.
I don’t think we should head there again.
I doubt they would need to nerf the Q. With more up time she’ll have to use mana more carefully or be forced to back more. I would prefer to see an increased AA range before making nerfs to other parts of her kit.
Are you reading my mind right now? I feel like you do. 
People seems still don’t comprehend how s tier she was post rework and had a huge over cluttered kit, any sort of buff is as close as getting sent to S Tier again with the amount of utility she procides.
I’ve wanted to play Tyrande more but every time I do I come away feeling like she’s just not as good as other healers. Her healing is heavily tied to AA but she lacks range. She doesn’t exactly do tons of AA damage unless she takes darnassian archery but that’s a level 16 talent.
Her damage output was insane and she had access to her powerful Q talents much earlier. With her current talent tree there’s not much to fear giving her more AA range as it only buffs her healing output at the cost of more mana issues. Post 16 she could be more dangerous in terms of damage but that means passing on cleanse for Q or % owl damage.
People seems still don’t understand that her base kit is still problematic because it has all in one house offer.
Armor, vision, stun, heal.
By 4 you already make your stun top notch with the braindead ramge increase.
Games take at least minutes to achieve such talents so her power spike get enabled fast enough.
She gives spell armor not full armor
Vision is overrated in most tiers because most players lack the games sense to utilize it
The stun is mostly a follow up and not an engage CC
Her healing is heavily dependent on AA which are dangerous because of how squishy she is
Tyrande’s not really an early power spike hero since they moved around her Q talents. She’s just okay. For the most part she needs a strong front line to fight behind and good engage CC for her to follow up on. If she lacks those things her healing isn’t as strong as other healers.
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Armor reduction via trait.