Maybe your trust level is now high enough that you can post links to trusted sites. At level 3, you can provide links to almost any site(s) with thumnails and GIFs, too. It does take awhile to get there, tho~~
Regardless, thanks for the thread. Nice to have some positiveness for a change.
Edit: But are those dev comments made before this reveal or after? Because if it’s after then anything can be made to look like “this was the plan all along”
People are still saying that and they will continue to say that especially when decisions are made to rush out heroes before even a decent backstory is made. No one could have guessed this OC hero’s identity after the teasers because she was not someone’s favorite hero when they made this poor choice. This is a game about your favorite heroes from Blizzard franchises.
Whoever decided that they were going to add a hero that wasn’t a favorite is responsible for all this mess and should not be allowed to make decisions like this in the future.
They wouldn’t have had to waste her model, animations, visual effects, and sounds effects if they just done something similar to Orphea. Better yet, they could have put her in an established Blizzard game before forcing it down our throats with lacking content. The fact that it doesn’t even fall in the category of favorite heroes from Blizzard games is why so many fans feel betrayed by OC heroes.
It’s not that easy to submit a character to other games. Personally, i think Qhira would fit as a OW hero. But of course, i don’t think the OW devs want to accept the ideas of HotS devs because they have their own ideas, too. And it’s weird to say like: “Please make this hero in OW, so that we can make it in HotS.”. And the most important reason of Nexus-born heroes is that they’re purely made by the devs. “If you see Lana’s talk on Orphea’s design, the team really wanted to do their own character it was a lot of love and they expected the whole thing to be a bigger deal for people.” They said that when there was Raynor on a poster for Blizzcon, people wondered if he represents Starcraft or HotS (and most people thought that he represents Starcraft). So they wanted to create 2 heroes that they can call their own. So from now on, there is LITTLE chance of getting another Nexus-born hero. So please stop looking back and ruminating over the past. The devs already know that most players don’t want to see Nexus-born heroes (anytime soon), so they will create highly-anticipated heroes from now on.
That is a selfish way of thinking. “We know you guys play this for your favorite heroes from Blizzard games, but we want to make our own heroes and lore that no one has heard of or asked for. If it doesn’t work out the first time we will lie to you about the timing of the next OC release and actually provide less lore since we don’t care about your favorite heroes, we release whatever we want.”
All of the heroes except the OC represent their original game and not HoTS.
They have already proven themselves willing to lie to force out heroes of their own design. Trust is not so easily regained.
That is basically what they claimed last time with the poor reception of Orphea. Fool us once shame on Blizzard, Fool us twice shame on the community for falling for lies again.
You are being selfish. It’s just because we get Qhira instead of a Blizzard hero (even though its design may be a lot worse), you keep on talking about this mistake of theirs (the mistake that they know of and wanted to change but they couldn’t).
Did we ask for HotS? Did we ask for any Blizzard games? But we still get them and we love them.
That’s THE POINT!
You didn’t listen! They didn’t lie. What they said was true at that time. They wanted to save Qhira for another time (maybe in late 2020 or even much later). But because of the layoffs, they HAD TO change their plan. And if everything was according to plan (Qhira was released on a much later date, the layoffs didn’t happen), Qhira would have got a lot more lore and comics just like Orphea did. And they actually care about our favorite heroes, they said that they wanted to make Kyle Blackthorne, but because there are not that many players that know him, they can’t make him (yet. But recently, i saw that a lot of players want to see him in the game).
I can express my opinions about their mistakes just as you. The only difference is that I am not so emotionally tied to my own opinion that I become intolerable to other opinions. To try and force your opinion on others is where meaningless frustration will arise.
No we didn’t ask for HoTS, we asked for WC4, SC3, and D4. We didn’t get those so we get by with what we got. Blizzard’s recent history includes numerous instances where they ignored the fans to their own detriment.
I agree. That is why HoTS should not have its own heroes. It was meant to pull characters from other worlds and not become some lazily patched together world of its own.
Whether the devs wittingly lied or whether they were forced to not live up to their promise by executive decisions is irrelevant. The fact is they went back on what they said and then doubled down on the OC hero releasing which has ended up in their face as the mistake it is.
We can always dream about what would happen if something else didn’t happen but we have to face the reality. If they didn’t want to have an OC hero release appear lazy and rushed then they should have waited to release her. There are more than enough heroes in HoTS and the backlash of delaying would pale in comparison to releasing an unfinished product.
How does that make any sense? Less devs mean less heroes in production at any given time but it really shouldn’t affect which heroes are in production.
Plus your own posts says:
So they actually wanted to release her in Blizzcon 2018 (before layoffs) and without any comics or ties to Orphea
Just because someone put some effort into something does not mean I am obligated to care about that work.
The way that the HOTS team has delved into OC content is just lazy and disrespectful of the player base.
A couple of comics and then wham, an OC hero that 90% of the player base has no idea who they are.
Nothing in game about them. Just dropping an OC hero into a game that was literally marketed as a brawler sandbox to play your favorite Blizzard heroes in and expecting everyone to like it because “we worked hard!”
Blizzard is out of touch and ran by children who still think just because they put effort into something that people will pretend they like it to save their feelings.
We arent your mommies who love your scribbled pictures and paste them on the fridge just because it came from you.
No, he just have the maturity to accept the company’s decision. And it’s not like you already have DOZENS of characters from previous game to play already, right? Nah, let’s turn into the most childish fanbase in the world because they didn’t gave us the character we wanted.
EDIT: Started with a comment I was responding to, didn’t clear it out. Didn’t mean to quote the above. Apologies.
To start, thank you, Jackice, for putting all that together. It’s hard to try and dig around for information about this game, because if it’s not in an article written by some journalistic site, it’s in the forums… and honestly, the forums have gotten bad enough at times that I don’t wanna play the game anymore. The info is taken with the knowledge that there’s a lot of salt to go with it, and only time can tell… I think I can hold out for another 3 months to potentially find out what the non-backlog character is like.
As far as this whole OC versus real character. It’s not the true argument, I think.
I will never forget the furor that went off when Yrel was announced. The stink was BIG, and I, for the life of me, did not understand what the deal was. Apparently there was something in the lore that I could only find out if I either played WoW (I have no interest in that game, it’s not a terrible game, just not one for me) or bothered to find some wiki about all of it. And some of the same things thrown at HER I’m seeing NOW (stuff about diversity and sjw agendas or something), only it’s stronger now because there’s no one who’s a fan of the Nexus to stand up for the new IP.
I just don’t understand getting wound up about a character in a free game… Especially when there’s more to come, and especially when none of the existing characters are being deleted to make room.
Now that you point it out that way, it does seem kinda strange how much they ‘know’ about a company they supposedly don’t work for, and accuse anyone arguing against them as being ‘shills’ or whatever… should we insert Inception noises now?
Well said, they took off our right of free speech on this forum with the retreival of Thumbs Down, so welcome to Unicorn and Fallacy world we live today.