These games are always long and drawn out which leads to slow losses or wins. It’s unfun especially because people picking damage dealers tend to be unreliable especially in ARAM. I get tons of dudes who pump out 30-50% less damage than they are supposed to. Sometimes it’s even worse. The way I see it, two healer teams have a higher chance of having a weak link damage dealer and will struggle to get kills on another two healer team with decent players.
Then these same players try to give me or other people advice about their build. Why would I listen to a dude on a similarly OP hero that is doing 50% less damage than me? An extra healer is just amplifying this problem because these bad damage dealer players are kept alive longer than they would be in 1 healer games but they never can deliver. It leads to long games and more toxicity.
The most entertaining games I have had in aram were the ones with multiple healers (ok 3x murky was also fun I have to admit). Double healer is mostly strong at brawling. The weakness of such comps is low waveclear, which does not have much impact at aram games. There are healers like rehgar and stukov who have plenty aa dmg also against structure and deadly offensive tools… How fast the game will be over also depend strongly on team comps. One nazeebo or one zagara is enough to kill structure quickly. So no, mostly those games were fun and didnt take too long, they were rather stompy actually.
NEWS!: Local D IV simp who wants the game unplugged, asks random folks who aren’t even around, to not do something fun, for their ignorance-fueled illusion of comfort
It’s been a long time since “unfun” has been evoked on the forums, I appreciate the retro flashback.
I remember in another complaint thread of yours that you said you were quitting Hots, I guess that didn’t stick. Anyhow, ARAM is by design chaotic, people are often bad at their roles, be it damage dealers, or double heals, or not taking a tank, or not taking a healer.
ARAM is a streamlined mode where you essentially brawl, aside from removing a few problematic heroes (Hammer) or disabling some Ults that are too strong on a one lane map (Ragnaros/Lava Wave), ARAM is mostly fine and part of the fun is the lack of “balance.” This is intentional, and I’d argue the lack of balance is integral and what distinguishes it from QM or Ranked.
If you’re looking for balance in ARAM, it would be like complaining that you don’t like cookies in your cookies and cream Ice Cream and would prefer Vanilla, just select vanilla next time.
When it comes to “bad drafts”, damage dealers “doing no damage”, well all those problems still arise in Ranked or QM, humans are inconsistent and fallible.
If one’s goal is to win taking an extra healer or an extra tank for that matter is a pretty solid choice. Nobody ever lost a game betting on enemy lacking focus and coordination to burst someone down.
How about you stop worrying about how others play the game and focus on yourself? You act as if your teammates are 100% of your issues.
Also, ARAM does not matter. Its solely for fun. If you don’t find it fun, play something else. Weird comps are a trait of ARAM. If you want solid, well put together teams, there is a mode for that. If you want to play a specific hero, there is a mode for that. If you want a dice roll type match, there is a mode for that. You’re obviously unhappy with it so why don’t you play another mode and stop complaining?
I just absolutely dominated on a game with no healer because I picked Junkrat, an OP hero, over Morales. I didn’t do this out of spite but because I saw two tanks incoming. Same concept. I will continue to pick damage over tank or damage over healer if I don’t see at least three solid damage dealers being picked.
Why should I trust you can play your crazy pick well enough to win us the game? I see it fail far more often than succeed and I don’t know you at all. The playerbase is becoming more obstinate and I do plan to jump to Diablo 4 to avoid further nonsense, but I won’t just pretend it’s not happening.
think it’d have been better if you didn’t share screencaps to spam the same thing across multiple topics. it’s one thing to leave it to people to imagine, but it’s another to see that it’s more another case of you posting hyperbole and then doing the very thing you fault others for doing instead.
Biggest highlight for D4 is a softer contrast in those double-standards you’re carrying, so little wonder why you’d want to keep praising that instead.
Let’s leave emotion out of this, I’m a numbers guy. I looked at the top siege and hero damage in the game you mentiond I posted the stats of. My Junkrat did 37% more siege damage than the next best player. I also did 27% more hero damage than the next best. I was approaching double siege and hero damage over my Junkrat teammate.
Considering I had no heals and died less, plus my damage, I was at least 30+% better than the next best player and twice as good as my Junkrat teammate. Objectively, I was the best player in the game by far yet two tanks on my team said I “got carried” and facetanked lasers. Why should I ever play a healer again when I can’t rely on others to do their job or be honest? If I went Morales like they wanted me to, we woulda lost due to poor performing damage dealer and double tank. The dudes were like “how’d we even win that?” and “I can’t believe they lost to us” but after mouthing off and complaining about me I wasn’t about to be on good terms with them.
It just proves this playerbase is not worth listening to. I can hard carry players and they lash out at me over irrelevant nonsense or b/c they are trying to divert guilt over their own poor play. This wasn’t the first game where something like that happened. Anyway, Diablo 4 when?
I’ll let you in on a little secret, some heroes like Azmodan and Nazeebo (Junkrat too!) are capable of very high siege numbers without really trying, or the player possessing that much skill.
Speaking of a lack of skill, in ARAM (or any mode), it is very possible to have high siege numbers while playing, say, Jaina, or Azmodan, because you might be missing your skill shots on heroes and mostly hitting minions.
This is why people ask for replays in threads like yours, as out of context, numbers often aren’t representative of your skill, or lack thereof.
that’s projecting an emotion to suit a bias and then trying to call it otherwise. Being a ‘numbers guy’ tends to mean that people reject pertinent context in favor of what they already want to think because they are suiting an ‘emotion’ and then decrying a presumption that someone not agreeing with that must be ‘emotional’.
While it’s generally better for people to play heroes that play better than not, you’re also faulting people for ‘dying’ in a team that doesn’t have the usual mitigation provided by a healer; you made a topic about people playing a ‘blame game’ and you are here playing a ‘blame game,’ just not to them.
People don’t accept a ‘truth’ because there’s actual little by way of ‘objective’ means to project it, especially if people think it is by numbers. For them, they’re telling you a ‘truth’ that their capacity to soak a superior amount of damage dealt (from 3 heroes) created enough space for the limited contribution on the other side to win the game; while they may have had doubts, it sounds like they still played it out, thus they contributed and suited the functions of their role, so their ‘truth’ is that they thus carried.
They also have stats they can tote to reaffirm the same ‘truth’, but in a different perspective and use the same rationalization to disagree with what you said to them, and thus they should tell you the ‘truth’ so you don’t have an over-inflated ego and then apply that to ‘real life’.
If someone follows the same process and comes to the same conclusion, then that is ‘truth’ to them, and if simply calling a few statements a ‘truth’ would convince people away from their bias and ego, they’d have already been ‘fixed’ before the ‘problems’ of that game were shared.
Some of their posts can spark a discussion, and on occasion they have valid complaints and/or observations.
However, of late, they are making a new thread for each bad ARAM game they play, and you know, there is a reason Darak created the Salt Mines, so the forums aren’t flooded with what is essentially spam.
I rarely go to the Salt Mines. Since I’m rarely salty. I try my best not put myself in that environment, as I could use as little stress as possible. Though if I were, it wouldn’t be HOTS related. I don’t know… how I feel about complaining about regular life stuff here. I would rather share to those willing to listen in private.
While you have a point I don’t have the patience to interact with this poster anymore. So it is best to put them on ignore and interact with those that give me hope in humans.
