Blizz has been tinkering around with the ai, and it’s gone back and forth over what the AI will prioritize.
In fact, before they started tinkering many months ago, if the AI was pushing or on an objective, all you had to do was have 1 player start attacking the core and they’d all hearth back to defend.
What I find annoying with the AI is if the AI team has a clearly superior front line, example a team with Muradin, Kerrigan, against a team whose offense is just Fenix, Alarak, hammer and a couple healers the AI is absolutely ruthless and goes into deathball mode, has a huge advantage on objectives, and will go after Boss camps in between. That’s a very difficult thing to beat.
With each AI player thinking on it’s own, they all look at the same situation to decide where they’re needed and all come to the same conclusion, resulting in the entire team running off any time they need to do anything but stay in a lane.
With a team based AI, it could say “We have an objective up, and some catapults attacking one of our keeps. I need to send someone to deal with the catapults and the rest of the team should deal with the objective.”
Instead of five separate bots thinking “The objective is up, objectives are more important than catapults, deal with the objective.”
LOL Wow… How old is this teenager? Seriously, dude. I don’t know why you’re so exercised while not dealing with the point. The AI is bad. I hope you get to suffer a plumber who is as professional as WoW’s staff, and see how much you defend him.
Seriously, though… why are you so invested in defending what is OBJECTIVELY bad? Do you regularly play bad games?
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First read few times what i did said,and then start think!
I not defending them or AI.
Man,you really cant understand what try out to explain?!
Man,not had anymore comments for your intellect!
Just try do not think!
I not want anymore talk with you.
Jesus. OMG i know exist so many low intellected peoples in our world…but your is…NO COMMENT!!
This sounds cool but I think every AI hero acts independently so they can’t coordinate like this.
If it is just one AI controling them all than it would be possible.
They did a big AI update after the announcement of esport closure. Ever since then the game gives you an atrociously bad AI.
If you don’t command the AI to follow you, then that AI will be useless the entire match. But even on follow the AI is still reluctant to attack at times.
AI has made me hate boss maps. They will engage a boss, nearly kill it and will then just disengage and let the enemy AI take it.
AI is really awful and needs to be reverted to how they were before that patch.
How bad is the AI? I ran across a group of people abusing the vs AI system to finish quests in minutes, even against the Elite AI. Stacking a lane and pushing to core, and the AI is so bad, it lets them do it. Find a new AI team.
While the AI is bad so is this not that surprising. Exploiting the flaws of AI in games is incredibly easy once you realize how they work.
Do this, then the AI does that, but you were expecting that
Also as far as your experience is concerned, what type of team was it? It’s not really surprising that it’d be highly successful if they intentionally drafted a team based on strongly pushing one lane. Like a team focusing around Sgt Hammer and just defending her, or around Sylvanas.
The AI this time last year was far superior in their decisions and play making priorities.
Attacking core while the obj is up/coming up? Watch all 5 AI hearth home to defend/clobber the worthless sergeant hammer player who sat in bot lane 100% of the game.
Trying to force all 5 players down mid? They will all swap to mid lane to defend against your 5 stack. A player splits from the 5 stack to top lane? They mirror the transition.
I could go on, but these are some the big things the AI no longer does anymore. Also the value they put on the bosses on the map is completely stupid.
Yeah, in Vs AI they’ll all go trying to get the boss at some point at least once per match… “trying”, because if you catch them (which isn’t hard at all, since they just single-file march right there with no regard to your minions or watch towers giving you clear sight of them), it’s really easy to kick 'em out and steal the boss (i’ve done it like 3v5 a couple of times).
What’s weird is that in Hanamura, that “Boss priority” behavior seems to be applied to vision camps, and not the samurai robot ones.
And it’s also weird how they don’t prioritize the boss nearly as much when it’s marching down a lane and crushing their Core! XD
Just had a match in Elite where 3 of the AIs were Elite, 1 Adept, and 1 Veteran. Apparently the numbers are so low they can’t even get a complete AI team anymore. That’s what happens when you let quality slip.
An Anubarak player didn’t help the team at all. He just played his own game, pushing bottom. The AI ignored him, even when he destroyed their keep, and was pushing minions against the core. He was alone there.
This is the state of the game.
The AI is TERRIBLE, which allows the worst kind of players (perpetually solo “you’re not the boss of me”) to play against the Elite AI with ZERO consequences. Team work isn’t necessary in a MOBA. Why even have a difficulty slider at all, if the AI is going to lose 30-3 on the hardest setting?
Why is the hardest setting AI incapable of…
Defending its core, when that’s the loss condition???
Seriously, why is this such a challenge? Even when the game is almost over, the AI will run past players attacking the core to fight MINIONS WAVES.
Punish players that are out of position where they can be ganked???
Seriously, how hard is it to make the AI target a player for a give me gank who is parked under the AI’s keep when the AI KNOWS that all of the other players are up in lanes or on an objective?
Not finishing off enemies that are almost dead when they are nearly at full health and only threat is minions???
Seriously, how is it hard to have the AI finish off characters who are at <5% health who are running away, especially with an AI hero with ranged attacks? And what is the DEAL with Sergeant Hammer? How long has she been in the game and the AI still has no idea how to deal with her?
So obviously devoid of intelligence, artificial or otherwise???
Is the AI running on a calculator? Because I see “Elite” AI dying to turrets, to minions, and because of their own failure to commit all the time. Right now, the AI won’t commit to killing but also won’t commit to saving its own skin. The “Elite” AI will run away at low health, then pop back out immediately, even though it’s almost dead and then, get this, get immediately killed.
Presently, “Elite” is false advertising. The correct description should be “Little Brother” difficulty, because it’s like the difficulty is trying to accommodate someone whose parents forced him to let his little brother play.
If you’re going to call an AI “Elite”, then it should be “Elite”. And I’m serious. WHOEVER you have working on the AI should be forced to play this hot mess for a couple hours every day (on their own time) until it’s fixed.
Personally, my money is here. They weren’t like, great before as they responded poorly to the sheer number of raw lane pressure picks in HotS, but jeezey petes they’ve been awful since that one patch, like God-awful.
There was a lot of fuss about some “DeepMind” stuff in Starcraft recently. I heard this particular AI managed to beat some world class SC players (maybe I heard wrong though).
Could an RTS AI be implemented into moba, I wonder.
tonight in a ranked game, our kerrigan D/Ced at level 4 and never came back. And that bot was lighting up the entire enemy team, the mindgames were unreal. She’d run around on her mount uselessly and then pounce in for a 3man combo, like, WHAT? And then would chase like a god it was hard to believe.
I only play VS AI if I’m trying out a new hero and getting quests done fast in events. You are correct though, it was that particular patch which pretty much turned AI into crack addicts, their behaviour at any rate.
I regret ever being critical of the AI prior to this patch, because in all respects it was superior. I have never understood why they didn’t just roll back the changes, but have insisted in several patches since they are “continuing to improve AI behaviour.”
I guess that’s why the AI goes insane over taking bosses, even going in solo and dying. The best of course is they never, ever defend their core.
I feel for people who enjoy playing vs AI mode, this must have ruined the experience for you guys.
