Seriously, why IS the AI so bad?

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The AI’s core is being attacked by a single hero (Sgt. Hammer or some other lane pusher)… The objective is active, but all of the other player controlled heroes are in the top lane, dealing with a boss activated by the AI? What does the AI do?

Well, all of 5 AI heroes are sitting on one of the objectives, ignoring the other objective point until it’s taken by the players, and loses the game, because Sgt Hammer destroys their core… GG?

I check the difficulty settings, and, yes, it’s set to “Elite”.

This is the state of the AI. I thought this game was developed by Blizzard, a triple-A game developer that’s redefined gaming since the 1990’s, and yet there are matches against this supposedly “Elite” AI that don’t make it to level 15.

I literally just played a match where it was basically 4 players against 5 AI, because the Lucio on our team was comically WORTHLESS, contributing all of 811 Siege Damage, 1240 Hero Damage, and managed only 2052 Healing in 13:02 minutes of play. We still won 15 kills to 2.

How does a team down an entire player, with no healing, beat an “Elite” AI, Blizzard? This isn’t Artificial Intelligence. This is Knock-Off Intelligence.

How hard is it to have an AI prioritize…

  1. Defending their core …
  2. Ganking players that are out of position to punish poor teamwork …
  3. Controlling (and then defending) map objectives …
  4. Diving on low health opponents when it’s perfectly safe to do so …?

Where is the Blizzard of old? #ActivisionBlizzard is #NotMyBlizzard

PS - What in the heck is up with matching 3-4 Healers/Support on a team?

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I have a theory that they fired the guy who wrote the AI and on his way out the door he broke it on purpose and they don’t have anyone smart enough left to fix it.

There was a specific patch where they broke it, and they’ve been basically silent about it ever since.

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The AI has some serious macro issues. They tried to fix the old exploit of the AI ignoring objectives if a single lone hero occasionally poked their core. However the result is the AI now totally ignore their core to get bosses and objectives to the point that they will even lose to catapults.

Core should always be priority 1. However the AI should mobilize heroes appropriate for the defence needed. For example if only 1 annoying hero is poking the core then mobilize 2 heroes to stop them. If only catapults threaten the core then send 1-2 of their best wave clear.

The AI should also be more willing to forfeit objectives they cannot win. For example they should try pushing the furthest lane, or grabbing merc camps. Anything that standing around walking back and forward nearby the objective like they currently do…

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I was just playing a AI Team vs AI match set to “A-derp” level, just to see how bad the damage is.

AI allies bailed on me taking merc camps…
AI allies bailed on the team during team fights at objectives in order to lane…
While trying to take a boss camp, AI allies didn’t attack the boss (no objective was up)…

Honestly, I think that Blizzard’s HOTS dev team should be forced to play HOTS AI Team mode at A-DERP difficulty until they figure out how to fix the AI. Because the only explanation at this point is that they just don’t understand how bad it is (I want to assume they “care” and that Blizzard “cares”), and until they are forced to sit and play NOTHING ELSE other than THEIR PRODUCT for hours straight every day until they fix it, they won’t know.

This is a perfect time for the old adage: never trust a cook who won’t eat his own meals. If their food is so bad that even they won’t eat it, then they probably shouldn’t be in the kitchen to begin with… Same principle applies to being in the gaming industry.

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Maybe it is only emulating potatoes…

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Pretty sure it was one of the next two patches after Imperius’s release.

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“Why AI is bad?!”…
Because not exist such gamer programer people ,to be inv -ed in HoTS devs. team!
And to find ways to programing ,almost acting like human.
For now ,they do his best.
Even elite AI is better than some peoples! :stuck_out_tongue:
If you think its easy to be programing better AI,then try out! :slight_smile:

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My theory is that the AI is actually players. Would explain a lot. /tinfoilhat

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The breaking of the AI had nothing to do with Activision.

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Don’t burst their bubble they won’t survive.

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Worst post I’ve seen in a while

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There’s always someone like this…

  1. As someone that’s successfully led multiple project teams for Fortune 500 companies, given a week and a budget, I am absolutely positive that I could find a team of bot AI developers in the wild who could cobble together an AI that would follow the simple priority tree that I’ve outlined above.

  2. “Do it yourself” isn’t a response to the complaint. The “Elite AI” in this game is a JOKE. Which part of “Elite” are you misunderstanding, friend? Why do you think the standard of “Elite” should be “better than some rando little brother’s account”, exactly?

  3. If this is “his best”, then they need to get out of the industry and go back to school. Period.

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They never had much of a focus on gameplay and its quality (although AI was ok) and now with limited resources I bet they got rid of everyone who could possibly fix that.

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Don’t know why you focus on the snark at the end, but I still disagree. Based on what’s been reported by outlets with direct knowledge of former B developers, Activision’s corporate culture is destroying Blizzard’s “quality games” culture. It’s not important to this issue that you don’t believe that, but it’s true.

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“shh…shht…SILENCE…dont reveal what you are with this negative word " worst”.!. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Bla–bla-bla…i dont care what you think clown!

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This is what you are and it’s not hidden at all.

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Because they don’t want having a bot to be preferable to having a player.

So they prefer making it worse than better.

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The A.I has always been a bit derpy but it seems like it’s super derpy now.

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Hey lisent up me now carefuly silly clown…
Stop think with this way,if someone is not learned to back in scool"
“OUR HUMAN RACE ALWAYS WORK WITH MISTAKES AND LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKES,YOU ARE TOO HUMAN AND ACTING WITH SAME WAY”…DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME?!" .
I know you cant understand me.because you have only 3 brain cells,1 is how to enter in game,1 is gow to use games mouse, 1 for how to enter in forum, 0 to think!.