Raynor rework in a nutshell

Players dont like to soak and do pve. How do we make it easyer?
Lets make it really easy for the player by giving them exp globes. Players dont like to fight

Also the same devs
Raynor is not fun he needs to be fun
Hmm. Lets reduce his dmg so he becomes worst in fights and becomes better at PVE.

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This is why i dislike hots playerbase.

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They probably were scared a bit, if he would become too strong with his loan talent, so they reduced his damage. If his damage end ups too low, they can just buff it again.

Btw I like the loan talent.

This is why Blizzard should stop with these unnecessary reworks.

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They just need to figure out what works best for each hero rework and stop reworking the same hero for the 5 time. There are many other heroes that right now needs a rework way more then Raynor needed.

But i have no hope for future reworks when two of the lastest reworked heroes ends up being busted the next 3 months.

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Raynor is incredible borring when doing pve.
At least greymane has a aoe ability that is nice to watch

Nothing is more satisfieing then to get a kill on someone behind a wall with cooktail flask.

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I am very confused, you don’t like the globes, even though they do work somewhat closely to how the old xp system worked, except that people actually know how the XP system works now and what gives XP, it also gives you more freedom to actually teamfight, since they accept you coming back abit late to the lane.

Instead you wanna go back to the old system that nobody understood, like what gave xp? minions? towers? camps? nobody knew exactly because there was no indication of what did and how far you could be from the minions, nothing.

Also Raynor is plenty of fun, his dmg lowered was obviously because of his survivability, i mean Raynor is the safest pick when it comes to AAs, i would ALWAYS run Raynor if i feel unsure and have to go backline as last pick, his dmg is way more than enough.

Were his basic stats reduced? I thought those were talents.

Also, need i remind you that Raynor initially was PvE hero, with bribe and stuff.

Also also, need i remind you that nothing stops players from “doing pve” on each and every hero regardless of what these heroes were designed for?

Also also also, need i remind you that HotS is about bringing down the core and different players may have different tactic? They only play whichever tactic they decide to be the best for the match.

Macro is too important in hots. Tlv and abathur show how broken uninteractivity and macro is. Azmo comes really close with his long range but at least his real body is somewhat closer to the action

Actually did you finally tried TLV by yourself Tooton? Or do you still think TLV can only be played by bots?

Did not try tlv. 20 char

And I’m gonna say I’m retired at this point unless someone asks me to come on. And those cases are extremely rare. Maybe once a month at most

Not again. Most specialists including TLV and Abathur were all reworked and had much of their PVE power diminished and had that power shifted more to team fight PVP damage.

I think HOTS is pretty balanced between PVP and PVE, which is part of why it holds my interest.

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You send a lot of reminders for someone who is too lazy to check out of his base dmg has been nerved

JIMMY LANER’S COMING FOR YOUR MINIONS! WATCH OUT!
Dear Forums: “Body seems unclear”? Go suck commie knob failbot.

I do not play the game.

Then again, Raynor has his trait and renewed talents.

Then again, did something stopped players from playing him as PvE before rework?

You don’t have answers to that anyway.

You have a very annoying way of typing.
Why can’t you just make one huge argument instead of saying. It is easyer to read

then again then again or I need to remind you 3 times
Raynors dmg is lower even when talented.

Yes a nerf to exterminator and buffs to other heroes so players rather played 3 bruiser, tychus W build or falstad

I message however i please. I do not recall putting you in charge of what i do.

Neither i’ll ask the opinion of someone who made a rant about “bad players who play their own tactic instead what I WANT”.

Anyhow

This is a lie. Raynor now has a dozen of talents that allow him to deal incredible damage.

And this is another lie. Nothing neither stopped them back them, nor stops them now.

Now you typed in an easyer way to read. Thank you

Ace in the hole got nerved because it doesnt go with auto attacks anymore
Veteran marksman is just a valla on a budget
Exterminator buff is nice but that is mentioned on my thread that it doesnt make it more fun when they nerf his overal damage

Now before you calling it a lie. Please provide evidence

Firstly, AitH is sorta garbage talent. but fine. Secondly, it works as a synergy with Raynor’s Q. 175% of its damage each 6 or 3 seconds or even less with Unstable Compound talent. The damage was not “nerved”. It is some players who cannot adjust to the new way.

:el_risitas:

Not dealing damage with AA ≠ not dealing damage at all.

Valla has attack speed and raynor has pure bonus to damage. The old version didn’t have loan, which is definite increase of damage. Still no decrease to his damage.

Now i shall bring in the talents you evaded to mention.

  1. Dusk Wing, which serves as replacement of his old talent which lowered enemy Armor.

  2. Sergeant Pepper which could serve as the replacement of old Execution if Blizz allowed it to be active per 2 attacks, not 3. That one i could’ve agreed on as weakening of lvl 20 talents.

But you haven’t mentioned it, thus i considered your topic as rant.