Yea i see that aswell. They pick sapper camps and they dont even escort them into the cannon area. Its like people just treat them like normal merc camps were people cap them and then forget all about them.
Also one of the other stuff i see on this map is when people dont even use the gateway when it opens to get faster back. I know that gate can be a trap sometimes when you are up againts a mine field build Abathur who place all his mines on the gateway. That ofc makes people stop useing it.
But when you have vison of where everyone is and still dont use the gateway then you just harm your team more then you do good since it takes so long for you to get back to your team from base when you could cut that time of in half with gateway.
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lol! Yes I see that too and players not knowing if you control more towers, more shots on enemy core with objective. Also on the reworked WHJ, many players seem to forget about the sewers. This is all fine with new players, but I find itâs more likely to happen from really high level accounts.
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this is normal, in fact the worst players i see are always like level 2500, 3000 and above and grinded a ton of ai
i laugh in disappointment when people complain they have low level teammatesâŚ
trust me, you donât want the typical level 3700 or 4400 on your team, itâs so often a person who has bad ideas and ways of playing the game so ingrained in their brain they will never learn, and they are often bronze & toxic
the best players i met were either very low level smurfs lvl 1-50, or players around level 300-1500, these players usually got their levels organically and naturally by facing human enemies if they played a lot of years
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That feeling when you only need that one 10% tower down to win the game but some troll channel it and lets enemy win casue the map spawned 3 alters next time and your team has 3 deaths 
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Naw, itâs just generally boring.
Basically you kill chest and clear JG to collect the coins and then pay at the pirate, but because of the sheer size of the map and the fact that the OBJ is based on collecting as many coins as possible, it forces you to play very passively for fear of losing everything. Death on this particular map is far too costly, not only can you lose coins on your hero, but you can lose coins from your JG because they can then be hijacked for a hefty reward. Pushing with the team can then become questionable because the map is too big, so you then just have this weird game of tug-of-war that leads to nowhere until you pay the pirate or until you somehow can obtain the upper hand.
Unlike other maps where youâre forced to engage in epic clashes, this map rewards passively playing, at least until lvl 20. The only advantage that this map offers is teaching ppl the importance of macro.
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Pah, I play Artanis, so that map is all about the danger camping. If you see me vanish, I am on your bruisers. None of this namby-pamby passive nonsense for me! I am there to take all your stuff, and if you want to fight me for it, bring it on.
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I donât enjoy ToD. Itâs not fun for me, and I grimace a bit whenever I see it on my loading screen.
But that doesnât mean itâs not balanced, nor that it should be removed from the map pool.
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Blackhearts is a better map then Infernal Shrines
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I really like shrines. I just dont like how mister objective jumps on you and stuns.
And I realy hate BHB, I see when I enter this dumb map ppl complain, dont know what to do, but not many got balls to make stupid topic, and just ask blizzard to delete this hell s*** and forget it ever existed 
The map just adds a new form of strategy that many who love to pvp are not used to face. Thats why the game have so many maps with its own map strategy. You constantly need to adapt yourself to it.
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It feels more random then it should be, plus it wasnât rebalanced since the Tower changes making the Frost one way more powerful then the other ones
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this irks me the most about towers of doom
people are generally too low iq to understand it even when their account is 5 years old
the map itself is very good and the most strategic map in hots
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Yes, and also remove the nukes map, itâs horrible and the nukes feel like they do nothing and simply pushing does more damage.
kid - remove yourself from this game. BH is the best map
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Only posting the bad stuff and ignore the good stuff about the map. That how complain post mostly are build around.
It would be fine if the coins would despawn after a few seconds, like gems do on the spider map.
But since coins last on the ground indefinitely, itâs not fine.
Its not random. There are pretty consistent ways to to bait it out but it just feels bad when its not handled properly.
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