The OP is pretty evident that you aren’t looking for a “discussion” but instead you’re looking for validation and agreement. It’s a “hivemind” because other people don’t want more things removed from the game, especially not when it’s done by poor reasoning and bad examples.
The issue isn’t math being “correct” but the conclusion someone draws from the numbers because they did “math”. A number of inexperienced, impatient, and dishonest people think any computation magically creates “evidence”.
When I jokingly said “athos, porthos, legos” maybe I should have been nore specific on not throwing childish tantrums if people don’t agree with you.
Cool, you have an opinion. So do others, and it seems like you haven’t come to terms with that.
To be serious for a minute, this would have to be one of the more petty complaint threads I’ve ever read here. The sheer volume and belligerence of your replies, for what boils down to a choice to use either; Ult A or Ult B, is frankly surprising.
There is no reason to swear at people, let alone in the context of this discussion.
It applies to all 4. Her baneling charges respawn faster, she can call down more roaches and summon more hydras. She can even summon more creep tumours as that gets cooled down as well. All for auto attacking, which she will do a lot of because she is decently ranged.
Of course this is not a concern for someone taking maw since you do not have mana to constantly spam all her abilities on cooldown to rank up a lot of damage. Now if only there was something she could get into that recharges her mana in an almost broken way for a map that normally has limited ways to recharge mana…
Nydus has so much value in ARAM because it hard cancels out one of the major negative mechanics of ARAM, no hall of storm recovery, on a hero that has a major mana sustain weakness. This is in contrast to Maw which has reduced value in ARAM due to heroes having a lot shorter revive time than a regular match, so securing hero wipes with Maw do not contribute as much value. If Nydus was banned in ARAM, which would make sense given its mechanics go against ARAM mechanics, Zagara would be knocked down to mid tier or lower instead of being a high tier, almost instant pick, like she currently is.
Too be fair, most of her contribution is the summons regardless of the heroic. Having temporary HP is tantamount to “healing” and her lvl 16% damage melts most heroes. If someone isn’t tending to Nydus/creep, then they may as well not have a heroic, which isn’t that different from missing with a Maw.
If a player cuts out Hydralisk and baneling spam, then her mana could mostly be managed with orbs. So players that are unaccustomed to enabling her spellspam may already be used to her mana-gement and think little of a Nydus they poorly place.
She gains significant bonus movement speed when on creep. She also is medium to long range (talent option, might not be worth it). Auto attacking with stutter step is usually quite safe and you can spam creep tumours thanks to the CDR passive from auto attacking on creep with Nydus ultimate.
Her main weakness is her huge hit box. She is one of the biggest heroes so is very easy to land skill shots and AoE on.
It’s especially good when 3/5 are dead and you’re low on health/mana. You can either suicide because you’re at 10% health or you can use that time to recover+ hop in and out to keep minions from overwhelming your fort/keep.
I just don’t think the OP is competent enough to understand the utility it offers and is one of those hurr durr morons who look at the damage done column and nothing else.
Probably the best example of an extreme retard.
Granted, it’s true, nydus value is reduced in ARAM, I wouldn’t consider to be useless by any measure of the word.
OP cites us all as a “hivemind” but it’s dangerous to say something is useful/useless ALL of the time. Speaking in absolutes is a surefire way of getting disagreements, especially, by people who know what they’re doing. It’s ESPECIALLY dumb.
If you place the tumours out the way then this forces the opponent to waste AoE skills to clear them. Which is value in itself. Unless they have a detection skill which not all hero comps will have and even then that might cost them a talent.
Nydus increases tumour creep AoE allowing them to be placed away from heroes enough that most splash damage abilities will not hit them when hitting heroes. There are some obvious exceptions such as big ultimates, or Azmodan globe (another reason he is top tier).
That is so frustrating if you’re playing a hero who can’t clear creep easily. In a recent match, our Johanna who had taken burning rage, wouldn’t clear Zag’s creeps, she would walk on some (accidentally it seems) but not kill them!
Imagine if ppl would shout “hivemind” at similar, but more obviously bad takes.
Like the “earth is not flat” hivemind.
The Sun is hot hivemind.
Green is a colour hivemind.
Like just believe in your nonsense against the widely accepted truth, and just say those who disagree are majority only because they cannot think for themselves… xD
Not in my games haha. Even worse when my hero can’t clear them that well. I lost count by how many games I had to swift strike with Genji just to clear creeps.
what is the point of posting and then deleting them constantly?
I’m pretty sure that files under spam
if you have something to say, say it and face the consequences
