I don’t see people banning her enough and honestly I think they should. She seems OP, probably one of the best ranged assassin’s in the game right now. I guess people underestimate her, since she’s not very flashy in playstyle, but to me she is able to do so many things well. Sustain damage? Check. Burst damage? Check. Mobility? Check. AoE wombo combo? Check. PvE? Check. She’s also one of the best heroes to counterpush a merc through black arrows which means if you draft her you don’t have to worry about being swarmed by enemy mercs since she can clear them in a blink of an eye.
And speaking of mobility she’s one of the few heroes who can “dash” over walls (even better post-13) along with an on-demand unstoppable that makes ganking or diving her very difficult. So that combined with the other things she can do why isn’t she banned more often?
These are the most common bans I see (Silver 4). Kael, Azmodan, Qhira, Johanna, Diablo, and either Brightwing or Li Li. Can you explain why she’d be a better ban than these?
I understand you. She’s strong in the right hands, but I’m guessing people would rather play against her than against any of these.
She is balanced. I have no problem when I play vs her.
She has things what I hate, but every hero has something, what is hated.
I see nothing in her kid, what is Overpowered.
i think she’s fine, myself. sylvanas’s talents are set up in a way that she has a lot of great options for her kit, but picking some of them locks her out of others. she can’t have all the things you mentioned at the same time; she can be a late-game AoE monster OR a tank melter OR a highly mobile hit-and-runner, etc etc
She’s fine, though I find some of her other talents overpowering the other, but most of them are fine.
She only has one single dash, her damage is all sustain, her camp clear is probably decent at most and her wave clear is decent.
Her ‘double dash’ is dependent on her teleporting with the other and even if she does ‘dash’, Haunting Wave still travels a bit slow enough than ‘fast dashes’, while her unstoppable locks her only self sustain in that tier, with that and the other being much better choices.
None of these heroes except Johanna and Diablo are particularly strong in higher level play, but last time I checked Sylvanas is one of the top 3 most contested assassins in master league.
I don’t think she’s super op, but probably a little overturned
One reason she is strong in higher level play and weaker in lower ranks or modes where organization is less common is that her range is fairly short, so unless she has a strong front line, she will have a harder time stacking or keeping Curse up. If she uses her E offensively, she can’t use it defensively. Both of her heroics require follow up to have an impact, something you don’t see regularly unless you queue with others, or in higher levels of play.
If you tune her down too much, she will be all but useless in most modes and ranks. I see her a bit like Maiev, in that if she has a competent front line and coordination, she can be terrifying, but if she doesn’t, she can’t really ramp up her PvP damage. She will always be strong in PvE situations, though. And Merc Queen can be incredibly strong on the right maps.
Both, just look at Li ming
She is strong but weak at the same time. In all leagues, I cant tell what league is the best for her. And thats the way it needs to be
Shes very strong in most situations but not overpowered imo. She always has a use on the team and cant be hard countered so in that respect shes a good hero, but theres also no reason to ban her bc whether its camps, burst, push, waveclear theres always a better hero. Best thing i can think of is that shes always the bridesmaid never the bride. V strong second choice but not a first one.
Hero balance has been around diamond+ on players with hero levels above 10 (hotslogs would use 5 and up, so one source of some response divergence), but reworks aren’t necessarily an aspect of one or the other for player level.
Some heroes are reworked to offset talent stagnation — something commonly overlooked on zomgherowasfine topics that revel in their one goto build.
Stealth, as an example, was reworked to appease eyetest concerns and try to overcome some of the concern of stealth heroes being ‘op’ in low ranks, and ‘up’ in upper ranks.
A couple of heroes were stated to be “fine” on winrates or balance, or the like, but then readers on devnotes overlook concerns on talent performance and function.
In some cases, blizz has had a rework from feedback, or on ideas that sound/feel good and perhaps less so on just the numbers.
So overall, a rework doesn’t come from just one source, and the reality of that tends to upset some of the forumites that don’t realize that.
I personally feel she’s amazing, definitely a reliable ranged assassin that can fit into a lot of different comp styles. Not sure if she’s too strong but she feels really good to play most of the time. My master friends hate queuing against her and will ban her when I’m not picking her though.
