HOTS players, playing OW2?

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Since its F2P, I played a few games but I usually disconnect when a game ends, still quite buggy on connection issues.

But here are my thoughts:

  1. It’s technically OW 1.5, calling it 2 is a marketing tactic
  2. HUD is more cluttered on screen and smaller. Personally, I find it distracting, OW1 had a better HUD
  3. 5v5 quite lack-lustre, having 2 tanks gave the game more versatility and more players means more mayhem in-game. 5v5 just seems… off for some reason.
  4. The match point screen seems incomplete
  5. Instead of loot-boxes there’s battle pass which is fine but it’s definately a model where if a player wants more stuff, they will need to pay, instead of giving 4 x items per loot box. The free batle pass gives 1 item per level.
  6. Improved in-game model graphics, looks cleaner and smoother.

I could go on, but in conclusion… it’s OW1.5, I played around 8 games, even with the new heroes, it’s just… the same as OW1

In the early stages of OW2, there was this concept of leveling up the heroes and having a talent tree with different abilities… guess they scrapped that.

Good try Blizzard, but it’s not OW2, it’s a glorified OW1.

Your thoughts?

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I dont play OW but I saw Asmond was in a 30.000 player que. And when he finally get to play he dced and got into a 8000 player que.

Blizzard never learn of thier past mistakes on new games. Always the same story. New game comes out and people are throwed into 6 hour long ques just to play it.

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Activision-Blizzard, the upper department.

I mean, I do get some of their sentiment (after the hype/honeymoon phase is over, player numbers would decline), but they’re being over the top recently. It’s as if they really are ready to jump ship; new management coming, cut investment for the future as much as you can, squeeze as much profit as you can, then bail with phat spoils carrying behind their back.

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I thought this was known for a while.
It’s as much OW2 as HotS 2.0 was HotS 2.

MY understanding is the leveling and talents was for a story campaign mode (the one part of OW2 that had me somewhat excited), but they decided to split up the PvP and campaign releases, instead of delaying PvP even more so that campaign could be finished.

I’m OK with that, but what worries me is I think the campaign will be sold separately now (if/when it’s finally released), so I might not get it for free from having OW1 (which I had thought might be a possiblity before, but I wasn’t sure).

Like mizpah said, it’s a management thing.
It makes no sense to acquire and maintain infrastructure to support 2 or 3 times the number of concurrent players you would usually have, just so you can handle the peak players during launch; that would be extremely expensive, nad clearly players will still put up with it happening every time, so the return would be almost negligible.

In an idela world, everybody could log in and play with no issues day one; but I understand why it can’t be that way.

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Eh. I’ve got mixed feelings.

Battle pass models aren’t really my cup of tea, since usually if you want something you have to grind your rear off in time or it gets locked away forever, but I can understand if people like it more than lootboxes since it’s not random.

Gameplaywise, it looks like Overwatch but with less CC, which is actually an astronomically huge improvement. That being said, the shift to 5v5 might mean changes to Hammond (my favorite hero by a long shot - if he’s in a state where he’s not fun to play, my interest in playing OW quickly drops). He’s weird as a solo tank since he’s more of an in-and-out squishy harasser/bruiser than a hold-your-ground/defend-your-buddies tank. There’s more than one way to tank, of course, but it still feels awkward leaving the rest of your team to play frontline while you take off angles. Im just afraid they’ll homogenize his unique, insanely fun playstyle.

Visually, I’m upset with some of the redesigns (or at least how they look in the portraits), namely how Zarya was made more conventionally feminine, how Junkrat looks more clean now, Hammond’s portrait almost looking like a Disney character, so on and so forth. They look more friendly to an almost sterilized degree.

Also, weren’t we going to get like a massive PvE campaign story mode?? Is that out yet???

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It feels feels incredibly optimized and I’m getting at least 30% better performance on 2017 mid tier hardware.

But the game isn’t even playable for many users because it freezes and stops responding at random, others have it even worse, all of which isn’t even close the more significant problems plaguing the release.

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I’ll give it a tr if they reworked Mercy into an actual hero again and undid that horrible rework from back in the day

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i can’t even play it LOL

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I played Overwatch 2 the past 8 hours, here’s my review:

HUD:

I have no clue what OP is talking about, personally the HUD is million times better in every aspect, its compact, not stylish, it shows everything you need on the screen, during the game, the most clutter I had was when Zenyatta used a healing orb with Moira and my entire screen was just made out of yellow healing effect, probably the most obnoxious part I had, it lasted for 5 seconds but that’s it.

They removed the Big Noodle Italic for a more less stylish to focus on readability of the text, this is a big plus, people would question that both might be readable regardless, but IMO this is a nice improvement and replaced with a bold none-italic font to help with readability.

Heroes that have extra HUD is all compacted almost below your cross hair, its small, its far better than what we previously had, for example, Zenyatta would showcase healthbars at the bottom right for each Orb, enemy or ally, now instead of that, you can just directly look right below your cross hair to get all the info you need, while still focus on the cross hair to keep your aiming on point.

With OW2 released, features like “Fire” and Level progression are removed, meaning less clutter on the screen.

5v5:

Absolutely abysmal, probably insanely frustrating from playing it because that one tank, if they die, you essentially back track the whole team, the game is rather more punishing from losing one player, now losing the tank is just gonna shoot the whole team in the process, previously having 2 tanks helped in a lot, this change is just as disappointing as a lot of people expected.

I won a lot of games, my conclusion so far is Orisa is so overpowered and strangely enough tanks always top the damage dealt in majority of cases, whether this says anything, I am not sure, but personally the game in a total mess for a launch.

“Unranked”

Yes this is apparently the new QM, it is made out of the following:

QM with Role Queue, QM with Open Queue and… Mystery Heroes… why? That mode is so arcady its insane to even bother put it into that category, its very dissapointing that the game is also moving way beyond the casual and even call it “Unranked” in the name.

This game will just become extremely sweaty in a few months, I swear.

Skins, Content, Battlepass

This formula is ok, a lot of companies do it, like Fortnite and more, so I have no comments on the battlepass, its very safe to just buy it if you want the content, OW 1 players will still be able to buy content with Legacy coins, which are literally what they are, the “duplicate” refund coins.

My biggest fuss is this

Its not the “no way they are giving you free OW coins” its the fact why give less for completing more challenges? That’s just very stupid.

But on the bright side, hey you can grind coins to use to buy content, or even the battlepass.

In conclusion, I personally find this entire movement horrendous, I may play the game on and off, but honestly this patch is just meh and sucks to see OW 1 getting axed instead of being kept as a legacy game, but hey its ok OW Classic coming soon in 2030, prepare your nostalgia goggles.

Also

This is for the Co-Op PVE campaign, this “release” is just the multiplayer, the campaign is still WIP.

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Yeah its terrible. The developers are a joke and all the talent in blizzard have left the sinking ship.

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It is also rumoured the coop PvE campaign will not be free to play. Likely being sold similar to StarCraft II campaigns if more than 1 are made.

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Downloading it now, will try it. Never played OW1.

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Wasn’t that for campaign? They experimented with talents and stuff for Overwatch 1 and ditched the idea since it overcomplicated things. The talents and stuff should still be in place once they release the OW2 PVE content.

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Halo Infinite’s battle pass is the best implementation of one in my opinion. You can buy previous seasons and all the “free” items for that season just say “unavailable”, but as you pass them as you level up they unlock along with the premium items. I bought the Heroes of Reach battle pass a week ago and they’re already in the second season. Idk how long the availability to buy the first season will last, but at least they let you buy it and will get the same rewards as if you bought it on day one and level up.

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Never understood the expiring battle pass…like, if someone wants to buy it…let them? That means they’re engaging with the product and potentially shelling out real currency…

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Wrote a short casual players first impressions this morning after giving it a whirl for an hour this morning:

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Honestly, that theoretically would create more money than expiring battle pass. If I were to get into Halo Infinite now, and I liked it enough to get every past pass, then I’d be giving more money than if I were to just start buying current passes now.

I don’t mind the “pay for challenges to grind for cosmetics” model (especially since these are F2P games that need to create revenue somehow) as much as I dislike the limited-time/FOMO aspect.

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You know what I really, really don’t get…

Why don’t OW1 owners get their cosmetics imported to OW2? Most, if not all of them are in OW2 and they’re all pretty much just asset flips from OW1…which is fine and makes sense.

I get that because $ but I can’t honestly think of a corporation that was so brazen with it’s hamfisted approach this time…like…in the software development world it’s almost completely unheard of to close down a previous, paid product only 6 years after release with next to no compensation when a almost near 1-1 parity could be created.

Blizzard is really playing with contract law here in a way which could backfire. I mean what happens when someone takes this to court and explains to the judge/justice "Your honor, imagine you buy a new car. That car has required software, it will not and cannot be driven without that software. Now imagine 6 years after you bought that car the manufacturer said ‘you know, we want to release an updated version of this car…but people are still driving the old one…how about we make that car undrivable by bricking the software on purpose and giving everyone who owned that previous iteration a 10% discount’ "

How well do you think that’s going to go over? Probably not well at all - because regardless of the monumentally smaller scale of a video game’s cost…it’s still the same situation.

It’s not like OW1 is 15 years old so outside of sheer wanton greed and budget lawyer tomfoolery there’s basically no reason to open Blizzard up to this potential liability.

I’m not saying everyone should get free stuff, I don’t have OW1 and I don’t deserve to have OW1 goodies included in OW2 baseline because of it. I should have to earn or pay to get those…but people who bought OW1 imo are getting screwed by potentially stupid penny pinchers who are banking on nobody getting mad enough to sue.

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https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/main-thread-game-freezing-with-intel-i3-dual-core-cpus/695966/826

They don’t seem to care about it too much. Can’t wait to hear their reasoning of certain hardware being under minimum requirements hence being unfixable (despite users reporting upwards of 200+ fps while playing).

This is lazy, ignorant and downright idiotic. I remember when one of the more popular adventure games from 1998 got “remastered” two decades later and people couldn’t even launch it without a directx 12 ready video card. Jeff must be spinning in his grave.

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more like OW SHOP 2 not OW 2, its all about money