Heroes of the Storm Balance Patch Notes - March 29, 2022

ohh what s busted about him?

that s wrong logic or u just dont know the passive effect of twinblade
to save u time: twin blade increases cdr for heroic strike on aa from base cd to 9s, so no matter if the base cdr is 2 or 3s after u pick twinblade it will be 9s so this minibuff only effects colossal and taunt and the devs comment is not a mistake

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def. not they only buffed weak talents and didnt touch anything that d make him busted

Wait, is that a mount suggestion?

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When Arthas buffs?
Should give him Icebound Fortitude baseline, or rework him into a bruiser at this point because no one is playing him. Howling Blast is too feast or famine. Why do heroā€™s like ETC, Rexxar, Muradin, and Joh get an active talent (Imposing Presence) that is better than Arthasā€™ E until heā€™s been hugging a hero for 5 seconds? Giving Deathcoil a short stun could be interesting/obnoxious lol. Or baseline Remorseless Winter. SOMETHING. Our Lich King is getting kited and pinballed around every which way.

Put Whitemane Harsh Discipline and Shared Punishment on different talent tiers, increase zeal to 50% spellpower (as it was pre-rework. god I miss double roots), keep the -25 armor, make it -30 even. Increase inquisition damage a little bit. I miss the high risk high reward playstyle of old. Sheā€™s been getting watered down more and more since rework. Donā€™t lower mana management and trait risk, increase the reward!
pls pls pls

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What kind of argument is that? Yeah I run out of Mana that means Iā€™m using my abilities not standing around with my sand active.

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Whatever. I say chromie doesnā€™t have enough mana tension. You say she does have enough in the form of her slowing sands

Enough is a subject term, but Iā€™d say Chromie kinda has mana tension (as in, you canā€™t use Time Trap, spells very liberally), with Sand, if you donā€™t die in ARAM. Not that dying is end of the world in ARAM (I often suicide when playing WM in ARAM, get some stacks via level 1 talent, suicide to get mana back to full - tell your team before doing so so that they donā€™t get the wrong idea).

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No, I said she does in the form of using her other abilities, including when her sands are active.

Broadly I agree, W build is very strong now and pretty easy to play.

Letā€™s hope that she gets the guldan treatment and next round of patches they buff her other builds.

I think the talents that stand out as being a bit out of place are the lvl 1 quest (too weak. Cap it, and give a big chunk as quest reward), harsh discipline, (still not competitive, simply comes online too late and competes with other more versatile talents) and Scarlet Wrath at 13 just isnā€™t strong enough unless your team is made up of all tanks and bruisers then the fight is over before the sustain healing is useful.

Mostly how much CC he provides, especially after 20. I think if they removed Rewind, or replaced it with a customized version that isnā€™t quite as strong, he would need slight HP buffs, and then would be balanced. If you play him correctly, he is almost impossible to kill, can turn any fight into a 4v5 after 10, and can set up mages like few other tanks. If his team has follow up CC, it is a guaranteed kill. The main reason he isnā€™t currently dominating the tank meta is more a testament to how freakishly good Johanna is, rather than any weakness on his part.

Nah, infinite dings is fun. Just give it Vallaā€™s Fire at Will treatment and it would be fine.

Not Paradox mentioned that Radiance might become a competitive talent for her, coupled with her baseline Desperation removal from W and the talent that gives her free Zeal of she gets 2 Desperation. Because now she can trigger the Radiance heal twice and still reapplies Zeal. Idk if thatā€™s gonna be enough but Iā€™m excited to try that build of hers.

You forgot to remove Gazlowe Bomb Toss on 20.

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If slowing sands is an issue, why is Murky alllowed in ARAM at all? His murloc army is far more abusive.

What do i care? Rework was trash, is trash and will also be trash until the changes pile up to undo everything they did back then.

And donā€™t forget Leoric and Deathwing. This heroes are the trinity of the anti-cc heroes, because they have a kit that doesnā€™t give a crap about being ccā€™ed. Thatā€™s why i donā€™t think Rewind is a problem, even tho itā€™s obviously powerful as you said, but thatā€™s why I think the game is in a stage where Anub isnā€™t busted, but balanced and it seems Blizzard - at least for now - thinks this as well.

They can only cleanse themselves, and being offlaners, are unlikely to be the ones targeted by Anubā€™s team in the first place. While they arenā€™t impacted by Anubā€™s kit, they canā€™t really do anything to counter him, especially given the fact that his CC is all multi-target, depending on positioning. Rewind may not be an issue for you personally if you are on either hero, but it is a game-changer against the rest of your team. Johanna works because she has an AoE cleanse on an impossibly short CD at 20.

You may want to look at Anubā€™s pick/win rates in competitive play before assuming he isnā€™t busted.

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WMā€™s Shared Punishment seems strong but he whole point of such talents should be utility and control, not pure output. I really hate it when they unload all the buffs on the simplest to use mechanic. From her own perspective itā€™s particularly not fun to have so much power concentrated in a single ability (13+16 talents) when thereā€™s an overabundance of interrupts in nearly every match.

Wholeheartedly agree, but the fact just has to faced. They just will not and I doubt they ever will revert it.

The state of the game and Blizzardā€™s in right now.

She needs changes to her talents, instead of making her more simpler by increasing output.

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Problem with WM is the same as li li has

There are just better heroes
in WM case its uther, he is the burst protection healer