It’s the first time I give you the Reason, Bubblez, DW is still unbalanced.
Deathwing is still broken whether we like it or not; the statistics do not lie, he still has a considerably high winrate, banrate and pickrate, which gives me to think: Why do people still defend him? The advantages of DW are absolute. He is always seen in the high leagues, and that is for something.
Forgive me but honestly, DW needs one more nerf.
And now I know not to care.
Heroes is not balanced around QM. It will never be balanced around QM and never should be balanced around QM.
DW was balanced before his last nerf. Now he’d probably be considered slightly undertuned if looked at by the numbers of his kit, but that’s off set by the number of people who refuse to adapt to playing against a hero that can’t be CC’ed.
He’ll be tweaked in to relative balance eventualy. Honestly i appreciate that hots is still willing to release these weird and almost experimental hero designs.
There are so many different ways to counter Deathwing nowadays. I’ve found Orphea to be an incredible counter, Deathwing is basically a free pass for Orphea to dance around the battlefield and do as she pleases.
Other than specific counters, the pros have said that people fail to play against Deathwing because they have the mentality that to win they need to kill. Deathwing is incredibly slow and can’t rotate as easily, you outplay Deathwing by isolating him and then rotating on his team. Fighting Deathwing is just playing his game, he has the high ground there. But if you play to his weaknesses, Deathwing can easily become a burden to his allies. But people can’t grasp this simple concepts, and as such consider him OP. The so called statistics only show he’s being picked and banned, but they don’t show why, and the truth is that his “OPness” does not come from his numbers, or even his kit. It comes from the very core of his design, and that’s something that cannot be fixed without destroying what he is and represents. The devs have a very complex task in their hands, indeed, to try and make him feel less OP if they so choose. The easy way is a nerf so he brings less benefits, yes, but I wonder, how much is enough? and when is it too much? It is such a subjective matter, after all.
Also, Blubblez… Resorting to name calling and insults proves no more than your lack of manners and respect, and is contraproducent to your point. People already barely take you seriously, for what I have seen before. You’re just making it worse. Then again, it might be hard-wired in your brain… Oh, poor thing. Oh, and refrain from mentioning me if you have nothing useful to say, will you? I have no interest in your… Barbaric babbling.
Only people who cant kill without cc still calls for nerf on a hero who already now got a fine winrate. 54% winrate is not high Bluddlez. that’s a ok winrate for a hero. But if you still think that is high then you need to get down on the ground again cause that makes no sense. You say people still have problems with him in games. Well guess what. They are properly the same people who refuse to adapt to his cc immunity. You forget even tho his main weakness is % dmg he also suffers from poke dmg or from heroes who can stick on him for a long time. Also have a little respect for other when you talk here. This forum is not a schoolyard were you can talk like you want. No wonder no one take you serious these days.
oh god back to “Deathwing so OP that he ruined the game” pls stop already… find something else to complain about instead… something that isn’t ridiculous like this.
But that’s what they will keep doing. Instead of just adapting they come here and ask for nerfs just because a DW in their game killed him over and over again. It really is this pathetic now to watch.
didn’t you notice that they only come here to complain about DW is when they lose to him? 
Ofc no one comes and tells us how many wins they had with him haha.
i actually got to play him in SL few times and all of them were wins. i posted a game in replays thread was my favourite game so i was like “post” 
oh no now they’ll say i play “OP heroes” D:
His winrate is not even that high anymore. Its just people have been used to kill others with cc but now when they release a hero who laughs at cc comps then people have no clue what to do
that’s the moment where you should use your brain and figure out how to deal with the situation rather than cry about it.
Its like Blizzard made a hidden IQ test with him to see how many can think out of the box with that hero but not many passed it.
correct. when i started playing after his release as i was excited to see how he works out and how to actually deal with him i found the best solution is to ignore him. why waste my abilities on him while i can easily kill his teammates in front of him and he can’t do crap to me? every game i played i tell my team to ignore him and focus on his team. we don’t even need to pick Tychus or Malthael or Leoric or any hero with % damage to beat DW yet people making it sound like you need tons of % damage in your team and “maybe” you manage to kill him… that’s pretty sad
% dmg is main weakness but not many think about heroes like Zuljin, Orb spec Liming or just any mobile hero can stick to him.
yeah they think only % damage can actually be good against him they don’t think that it’s not really only % damage. you just need to actually think of everything rather than 1 thing just because he’s a “big target” with a tank health-bar doesn’t mean you 100% need a team with % damage you need to play better and pick reasonable heroes that can make his life hell. just like you do in general
But until then cya next op thread when next hero comes out somewere in spring aha. Then we can start all over again.
You have already find your problem. Play UR or SL and ban or counter pick him.
Or just go on QM with one of his hard counter: during its first week I queued up with a friend as Malthael and Greymane. It was just too fun to almost oneshot him with both ultis in a couple of seconds.
I like his addition of the game. It forces players to not rely on stuns to take down and eliminate enemies.
DW gets maximum value in masters/GM in very short, coordinate fights. His long starting animations for all his abilities vastly decrease his overall effectiveness in long fights/engages and his inability to be healed from teammates (or be affected by stuff like Abathur hats) makes it even more difficult.
Who cares? MVP doesn’t mean much. Winning is what matters.
He is counterbalanced by his long windups and inability to be buffed or healed by allies. A lot of the nerfs were simply numbers changes to tune him down a bit.
Yea I don’t really believe this. If you’re playing mostly QM, it’s doubtful you’re constantly going up against GMs and Masters. Which means you’re statistically more likely to get mediocre or bad DW players. Which then means you probably are playing very badly around him which is your own issue and not an issue of hero balance.