But only if your premate team can take advantage of that. I’ve beaten so many 5 stacks or lost in 5 stacks that I can’t count. 5 stacks are no guaranteed wins.
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I’m not attacking people; I’m just telling them their opinion is wrong - because most of them are and I’ve no patience for this kind of crap anymore. I’m not a teacher and I’ve zero interest in hand holding people through basic logic. Especially the nastier ones who keep cropping up.
Nobody is offering any solution nor was I asking for one. There’s only one solution; grind my way out.
This was simply a story I was telling about how the free hero event directly lead to me playing with some of the worst players HotS has over and over until I was demoted into B5 from D1. I mean did I ask a question anywhere? No Is the thread called Demoted from Diamond 1 to Bronze 5; a tale of caution? Yes and it’s exactly as advertised; a tale of caution; don’t play during those kinds of events because you can be paired with some players that are so bad they could be considered legit feeders.
This is the kind of stuff that annoys me. This shouldn’t even be a topic of conversation…because nowhere did I ask for advice nor did anything in the title imply I wanted advice. Just enjoy the story for what it is.
Not mad or anything; I’m just a little short on patience atm. Don’t take it personally please.
yeah if a high gold stack of 5 played in rank they’d be against hight plat/low diamond solo queue or another stack of 5.
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You say this as if it’s some kind of negative attribute. OF COURSE win rate is due to team synergy. Wins in any game, whether solo or stacked, are the result of players playing together in a team that synergizes well together. THAT’S THE WHOLE POINT.
Thats also why playing the game solo is a inferior player experience. Every single player who values the game and competition within it should be looking down on solo play as inferior, BECAUSE IT IS IN EVERY POSSIBLE WAY.
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If you are not doing that feeding, there are 5 enemy players who could be feeders but only 4 on your side.
It can happen a few times in a row, happened to AZJackson 16 times. But 50-100+? Nah.
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Seems to me you had decent players to carry you. Now that you started solo queue you’re at the bottom division.
If I was in your place I would do my best to fill and invest in social aspect of the game. Then I’m pretty sure I can get new active players to aid me.
If you had 3 main roles like 1 damage 1 tank and 1 bruiser pretty much you can get out easily. But spamming Ranged Assassins and healers without Bruisers and Tanks you might find it difficult.
The most common roles are always mages and auto attackers. Players refuse to fill other roles than Healer cause for them is boring. Well that “boring” attitude will likely drop their rank and most likely we see these players complain on the forums.
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Congratulations, you have faced your true rank.
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There you say it yourself… You got tilted. No need to deny it, it all happens to us at some point. Of course in theory it is mathematically possible to lose 50 games in a row by just being very unlucky. Propably as unlikely as winning the lottery. I myself reached low dia on almost all my accounts and I remember once or twice dropping to high gold then climbed up again within some days. Dia to bronze 5(!) is just huge, and odds are extremely high that you yourself were the problem. Whether it be being tilted, unmotivated or just not being used to playing solo…
Of course it happens to have games with feeders up to 15 deaths but those games are rare. The thing is that you recall exactly those games and forget about your own missplays.
I have sympathy for you, anyone who is honest (and human) will admit to having losing streaks. At least speaking for myself I have had many a losing streak. The majority of the time my losing streaks will be mostly my fault, as much as I might not want to admit it.
This is the classic mindset of someone who is tilted. I know it very well, it’s almost (maybe is) a compulsive feeling. Playing like this will often make you lose more than you win. If you hadn’t started in Diamond and were maybe in Gold, I might agree with you that all free hero rotation might be larger reason in why you dropped.
You stated in Diamond, so people in and around those ranks were unlikely to be playing heroes they never have before in ranked. If there were, they would at least be a little more likely to perform with some proficiency than a Silver player playing a hero for the first time.
To be clear, there are some games that are unwinnable. It can be very discouraging when you have three games in a row where your allies are deliberately dying by walking into towers or dancing AFK in the Hall of Storms. As bad as that can be, it doesn’t happen enough to bump a player down from Diamond to Bronze 5, not even with all F2P heroes.
Best of luck moving forward, I’m pleased to hear you’re moving out of Bronze. If you’ve climbed out of Bronze 5, you’re over the worst hurdle as that particular division receives the fewest points for winning matches.
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80% is the kind of winrate that even if it’s a main you only pick in your niche should stabilize out, a winrate that only pops up over smaller sample size, should stabilize no higher then 70%,
if you went down to 44% I’m inclined to think this is even more the case as to lower your rank that much you’d have had to lose so many games that your rank would decay to a point where you would start out classing your opponents by sheer micro skill.
For me, tilting manifests at being overly critical of allies. I don’t stop playing or play significantly worse. I don’t get why people in the HotS community get the concept of playing with mass feeders = you can’t do anything, they literally throw. GMs can’t fix that mess and a trash panda diamond player can’t fix that mess.
Due to the event; I was getting feeders once I dropped to around plat; in Diamond I’m pretty sure it was mostly bad because we were vsing stacks with like a 3000 level advantage; and their experience showed.
I agree on a macro level, it shouldn’t happen like 20 matches in a row.
But! It’s sometimes super weird. My hardest match today was against bronze and silver players, with a D5 Brightwing. Sure, the composition was difficult but fighting the P5-G3 people in previous matches was a lot easier.
In theory, life can roll what DankTemplar experienced, it’s just an extremely slim chance.
The reason I can’t relate well to the story as presented is simple: I have the opposite experience and all those B2GM streamers do as well.
Of course I also identify with my highest tryhard rank achieved, so I understand the mindset.
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I don’t get why people think it’s not possible…it’s just anomalous. I blame the event because I have never seen so many wanton feeders in my life; something had to be pulling them all in. Could I be wrong? Sure but that’s a pretty logical conclusions to draw; excessively bad feeders en masse coincided with the f2p in ranked event.
Since then I have never witnessed players that bad again - and prior to that event the only time I’d see players that bad is when vsing non-elite AI.
I think the 80% WR was mostly because of how good my team was but the sample size for my 80% DW WR was pretty good, around 50ish games, maybe 30 at the least? Make of that as you will…but yeah, I’ve found DW to be rather bad these days; he requires your team to cooperate or the enemy to walk into your Q. Neither prospects are particularly inviting, lol.
Agreed. I think this entire thread is mostly absurd. The idea that this guy was part of a gaming group, stopped playing with his group and dropped like a stone being due to anything other than being carried by his group is laughable.
I’ve been playing pretty much since the beginning, sometimes I fall from high diamond mid diamond to Gold one, then I get back to diamond in a week or two, sometimes three, but honestly, this conspiratorial fingerpointing is nonsense and not going to help anyone learn how to play the game or rank up.
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Also, this idea that you’re performing well because you have 1 death while your teammates all have 5 is indicative of your distorted perspective from my point of view. To me that means that you are probably missing team fights (causing huge losses in deaths for your team and missing objectives) probably because you’re obsessively soaking without considering the consequences of a lost team fight. Also, as as bruiser or tank, if you are getting out before all your teammates do in a fighting context, that’s also problematic. Sounds to me like you’re either not fighting with your team, or not sacrificing to keep other players alive because you have a distorted idea that you not dying is the most important thing in the game. Maybe both.
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Your belief in your self awareness of your mistakes and ability to train yourself is clearly a mistake given that you’ve fallen from diamond to bronze. I think you are more interested in rationalizing your low rank at this game instead of learning how to improve and actually understand the game better.
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I am not going to entertain your assumptions. Go kick rocks. The hell is wrong with you?
You’re free to stagnate in low level play. No one is stopping you. With your attitude, I’m sure that’s what you’ll do, unless you can find another group to carry you.
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Game is all luck so oh well
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