Can we PLS have Deathwing Humanoid form

Neltharion? Yes.
Deathwing? Nope.

Deathwing became mad and wanted to be praised as a fearful God, so him transforming into the mortals wretched forms makes little to no sense.
And in HotS, we don’t have a full-time dragon Hero and DW fulfills that empty niche/fantasy.

You see a missed opportunity, I see a good decision.

Well, one of the reasons why is that he never really used his humanform. You could come up with one time he actually used it (Badlands doesn’t count because that wasn’t him), but that still an exception and not the norm for him, so why should something rare and unusual be a part of his base kit?
And why should we have all the dragons walking around as tiny mortals?

We needed a full-time dragon and if that wouldn’t be DW that’d be outragous tbh.

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I have played wow since Lich king x-pack got out and semi hardcore raided since Pandaria x-pack. Also i did the twilight highlands quest all the way to were Alex lure DW into a trap but gets severly wounded and did the Sinestra fight were Calen the son of Alexstrasza dies to save his own mom and the raid itself.

Neltharion and Deathwing are one, just because hes called Deathwing it doesn’t mean he isn’t Neltharion. Neltharion was cunning and malevolent which made him an interesting character to begin with, even prior to complete Old God corruption. Like I said before it’s Blizzards crappy story telling that ruined this side of the character, to butcher a characters alter ego just for the sake of “full-time dragon” is complete nonsense.

Nefarian and Onyxia also have human forms in wow, but if they comes they properly wont use them.

They are the same, but their thinking, ideologies, goals, morals, confidence, methods and almost everything are so different, that we can refer to them as different characters.
It’s like calling Jyggalag (a Daedric Prince from The Elder Scrolls’ universe) Sheogorath. They are the same individual, but they are not the same person/personality.

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I don’t know who those characters are but no comparing two different characters to a single character doesn’t make much sense. Deathwing is still Neltharion, he himself gave him that title.

Jyggalag and Sheogorath are the same individual. The same with Neltharion and Deathwing, yet they are so different. And that was supposed to be my point.

If I go complete nuts and rename myself to McNugget (not here, irl), ppl can refer to me as “Karabars” and my newn nuttier version as McNugget. They are the same indiviudal, but they are two different characters.

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That makes no sense, just because you chose to give yourself another name/title it doesn’t completely scrap the fact that you are still that named person or being.

If anything that’s a straw man argument.

There are well-defined stages of characters where they differ from themselves.
These stages often has different names, so the “reader” has an easier job to tell them apart.
Bruce Banner is Hulk, but Bruce Banner =/= Hulk.
Neltharion is Deathwing but Neltharion =/= Deathwing. His character changed a lot before we got him as Deathwing. It’s a simple concept and not strawmaning… :sweat_smile:

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That’s exactly my point. Bruce Banner = Hulk. No Bruce Banner means no Hulk. No Neltharion? No Deathwing.

Just because Hulk turns into Hulk it doesn’t mean he not Bruce Banner anymore.

Let’s forget for a moment that those characters are pretty different in the way they’re the same and yet not the same and just assume a moba of the Marvel Heroes adds Hulk as a playable character.
What do you expect them to do? Add Bruce Banner too within Hulk’s kit, or just Hulk with Hulkish abilities?
(Spoiler alert: every game uses Hulk without Banner for a good reason.)

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Well you said it. They’re different. Bruce has no control over the Hulk while Deathwing can take each form on command. Just because Deathwing takes human form it doesn’t mean he isn’t Deathwing anymore, I think you’re confusing his human form is “Neltharion” somehow.

Nope. By Neltharion I refer to these:

And by Deathwing I refer to these:

But I see this debate with you is pretty mute, you’re seemingly unable to understand the solid reasons and arguments why Deathwing as an all-time dragon is a good or at least understandable choice for the Hero and its kit relative to every other Hero we have, will have and could have.
You just want your toy and you are angry that you didn’t get it, but nothing that you, me, or anybody else says will change anything regarding DW’s kit, so have a nice day!

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Like I said same character, different form. Just because it’s another name doesn’t mean its not the same character, McNugget is still Karabars and that’s how it works. Shafting a character just for the sake of said “all-time dragon” is a horrible idea coming from a horrible development team and writers. You seem confused to the point you assumed that I’m angry or that maybe I agree with the OP you thought we were the same person, you might not know this but not everyone who disagrees with you is the same person.

My point still stands, Deathwing is another wasted opportunity once again and it’s unfortunate that I and others alike have to witness it twice.

I will play him no matter what. human or dragon i dont care.

I didn’t confuse you with the @Op, I’m not making hollow assumptions.

That’s actually you and I even had to link 4 pictures to try to clarify something I never had to do ever before despite talking about Deathwing/Neltharion with a lot of ppl because you just get more and more confused an clueless with every single parallels I brought up to you.

There are others who’d feel the same if DW would have a humanform, so… unfortunate to be you I guess…

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Yet you assumed I was angry, I’m simply disappointed. Throwing petty comebacks to try and mock and dismiss my point just makes you look like you don’t have a reasonable mindset which is greatly displayed by “all-time dragon”. You keep using the same argument which I’ve explained plenty times doesn’t make sense even going as far as using other characters from other franchises, only to be told the same thing but still managed to be confused.

Yeah unfortunate for me of course, not like this game is on a great decline or anything…

This is actually the strawmaning. But mb, should’ve used upset, but the point is the same.

Lol.

I told it multiple times, because you didn’t understand it.
Still don’t tbh, but whatevs.

So now you’re implying that if DW would have a humanform in HotS, the game would do better in the future than it’ll do without the humanform? :thinking:
You base that on what exactly?

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I don’t think you know what that word means at all, there was nothing to argue with that to begin with. I was never angry, and as I said “simply disappointed”, but who knows? You could see things differently, lots of strange people out there who love to exaggerate the typical. But I do find it amusing how you attempt to make it look like I don’t understand when in fact you keep using the same argument over and over again that’s already been discussed, look it doesn’t make sense. Whether you understand that or not. It’s final, that’s just how it works.

It’s a small step, but you gotta start somewhere otherwise it’s just a downward spiral into failure and disappointment like current state the game is in. They have to add more flavor to the game and do things outside of their comfort zone.

Think about it simply , would you rather have human deathwing similar to alex and have dragon deathwing only for a few momments OR have deathwing as an eternal dragon where you have that constant rush of destruction .

Human deathwing as awesome as he may be , is nit likely going to have the same destructive vibe as his dragon form which is exactly what people are currently looking for . ( me included ! )

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