Butcher is beyond broken

Blinds, CC, follow up damage by team- Three things that stop butcher.

Stay with team and quit overextending.

I was butcher and versed tass, genji, tracer and murk. You know how annoying it is when you need to wait until one of them uses their escape so you can charge them? Or that you need to pick the lamb ult with the chance of hooking them so they can’t use their escape from charge.

Butcher can’t charge me because my E.
No matter how many stacks, Tassadar counters Butcher with Nullification.
If Butcher charges in someone, Tassadar Force Walls him out and protects allie by shield with Armor what makes hard to kill someone for Butcher.

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Had a game recently where I was on Johanna and was hanging out with a strong Chromie player. The opponent Butcher really had it in for Chromie. But I shut him down completely: when possible, I Condemned just as the Unstoppable ended. If too far away, I blinded. He didn’t get a single kill on her, or on anyone if I was around, and we kept him in check. That’s the thing: you have to keep him in check. If you do, he’s trash.

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Heh, just saw the patch notes, especially re: Unstoppable now removes blinds and prevents application. Update: for some reason I am being shown old patch notes. Confused…

So…never mind!

u havent understand what i said, he can charge you if he root you in first place, the silence ulti has a long range, if he chains you, he might kill you, or at least leaving you very low on life, i made a video with a low stacked butcher (200 only) and the range is pretty long, and he can oneshot a tassadar before the silence expire (preventing even Tassadar from using its E)

This is a question of reaction. I will use my E before I will be silenced and rooted.

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cast time is 1 second, in 4 years playing hots i have never have seen someone who can react in less than one second, even more if they cant see the butcher (if is hidden in a bush), u have to be a super human to react in less than one second (which I doubt )

Oh but he is the child who complains about OW but defends a parmabaned hero like DW! I see you don’t understand anything, my little one. In any way you would be surprised to see how my Tracer destroys your Butcher, to see you squirming and cry and complain again about Tracer and come here (As you always do) to ask for a nerf to Tracer :smiley:

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hahah dude u have serious mental problems, go to the physician before talking to me, you are the one who dot undestand anything lol

I am 106 lvl Tassadar, dude. My average KDA is 9+, what means I die 0-1 times mostly, depending from my build and enemy comp. Last season I had 15+ KDA as Tassadar.

It’s hard to kill me if you don’t have instant CC or burst dmg. That’s why I don’t like to play vs Alarak with his Q.

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thats what u saw in the video, instant cc and burst dmg, can one shoot tass, with 1 second cast time u hardly ever cant avoid it

Instant?

Instant CC is Uther’s E or his Divine Storm, not Butcher’s ult with 1 second cast time.

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yeah but you will see the Uther walking towards you, and you will be pretty aware he might stun you and just walk away from him, instead a butcher can root and silence you pretty far away, you wont notice that. even more if butch is out of your sight

  1. When Butcher casts ult under someone, you hear pretty loud sound and see animation of his ult under you, what gives you time to react before being CCed.
  1. You cann’t hide from Tassadar because his Oracle, espesially with his quest on 7 lvl, what makes it more large than your distance of casting ult. You won’t get me unprepared.
  2. I can use my W to check bush you are siting in.

About your video, it doesn’t show everything. As I said before, Tassadar can use his E, but if he can’t use it (because for example it’s CD), he can:

Shield himself with armor to have more chances to survive (if he went Q build, shield may save him) - put a protective Force Wall to win some time - use Nullification before getting silenced if Tassadar reaches you with it.

Tass has four buttons to deal with Butcher - one of them is for self using only, when other may be used to help allies. Anyway one of them helps pretty hard.

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Once Butcher has completed his quest he can delete any character, even tanks at full health, in an instant. That is true. Therefore the best, and only, counter to him is to make sure he doesn’t complete his quest. Once Butcher has completed his quest, it’s game over. So counter him, while that’s still an option, in the early and mid-game.

okay that’s a matter of how much ur prepared to avoid all his abilities, if you don’t have the cooldowns ready, or ur distracted looking the minimap, or use ur W in the wrong bush or typing or doing something else ur a dead tass

“If you play bad, you die.”

And I thought I was allowed to play as poorly as I wanted and still win games. Hmm.

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That’s about it. I told him already I am NOT bad.

Seems like your Butcher is good vs bad players or someone, who does mistakes. But it’s not about me on Tassadar.
But remember that you can be mistaken too.

what i said: looking the minimap or use skills to check (empty) bushes is not playing bad, playing bad is feeding and dying on purpose, playing bad is beeing afk in lanes all game, playing bad is not doing anything in teamfights and ignoring ur teammates, thats playing bad (u can see that in bronze rank), u can play very good but u can make mistakes, even GM make mistakes and can die

yea butchers punish every mistake, and everyone can make mistakes, if u said “i never make mistakes” then ur liar, u can make mistakes too… even if u consider ur NOT bad :wink: the only way u cant make mistakes is not beeing a human, because humans make mistakes, is our nature