Balance Patch Notes Feb 12th

General Discussion
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I only play Fenix.

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All gold and shiny though?

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yeah that was very strange. I think aba shouldn’t have a mine build at all because the base ability is already fine at what its supposed to do. Do they actually want “randomly deal 75% of someone’s health with completely invisible mines that a lot of heroes can’t clear” to be a viable build? I certainly don’t.

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no Nova buffs either whatsoever do they care about Stealth anymore? since they ignored valeera and also ignored nova hmmm

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Whats wrong with Raynor?

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yeah nova too. You notice how heroes deemed “unfun” are regularly left out of patches? Tracer, nova, valeera, genji.

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that’s actually ridiculous it’s about time they do something to these heroes rather than buff and nerf the same heroes over and over again give me a break ffs…

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I totally agree. That said, the problem is there is not much to give him otherwise.
Q / mine / locust build. The latter are :cancer:. How else are you supposed to give him talent diversity?
Meh.

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Ace was already basically the only level 1 before, now it is so good that if you don’t pick it you’re trolling.

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I feel thankful for Maiev’s Cruel Chains reversal. Was really looking forward to it.

Sometimes dreams come true.

However, I feel bad that people playing Uther as main tank got him nerfed… :frowning:

I liked the stun machine build. Well, RIP to that. 2015-2020.

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i’m very curious why would they change raynor he’s extremely easy mode hero why would they make him even better? feels like they’re the ones trolling us here you go fans have some troll buffs for an easy mode hero hf!

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Eh, stuns/slows are so omnipresent nowadays having one from lvl 1 doesnt really change much, imo (especially in more organized games).

EDIT - tha said, wouldnt mind if they just removed the slow, sure.

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It’s not about the slow, it’s about the proc on ACE for bonus damage. Imagine having executioner at level 1 that procs on your own AAs

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They finally buffed Tyrael’s trait.

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So… its about the slow that enables executioner from your own AAs. Yeah its silly, but since Raynor is usually part of 3/4 man deathball it barely changes anything (again, in more organized games).
Inb4 nerfed because lower leagues tho :’

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I can’t believe they actually listen to my idea of emergency protocol!!!

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Okay, but there are a multitude of heroes in the game that has a slow from level 1. Pair them with Raynor and away he went. This changes nothing except letting him proc it himself earlier instead of at level 4 (assuming he took that talent anyway if he had allies with slows).

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I actually think he would be nerfed cause of higher leagues tbh. Also, if they didn’t change this, his slow is applied BEFORE his trait damage, so whenever you get trait damage you already get the proc from ACE instead of damaging the enemy and then applying the slow. It’s pretty strong.

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Ace in the Hole + Unstable Compound is the most popular pick, but Veteran Marksman + Unstable Compound is also good if you can count to 4, especially when you pick Bounty Hunter at lvl 16 you can get to crazy numbers late game.

However, these changes didn’t fix the main problem with Raynor’s talents. Some are just too good all the time, no matter how you play or teams composition. I am talking about Fight or Flight (lvl 4) Giddy-Up (lvl 13) and Paint Them Red (lvl 16).

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There is always a risk that if any hero shows up, they will be ruined, with “reworks”. Orphea is in a good place for neither buffs or nerfs.

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