Add an Option for Guaranteed Tank and Healer on QM

General Discussion
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A simple Checkbox to ask for a Guaranteed Tank and another for Guaranteed Healer.

"YEAH GOOD LUCK WAITING FOR 2 HOURS!"

Hey, thanks!

I don’t mind waiting whatever time span, since I had the OPTION to… If i get tired of waiting, I can always uncheck the Guaranteed Tank/Healer boxes and get a quick 5v5 assassin mudfight.

Other Game Types

WHY DON’T YOU PLAY X???

About queue times:

In my server, Unranked is non-existant. I literally left it on for 2 hours once, while playing on wow. Even forgot it was there…

Storm League’s around 40 minutes.

ARAM is not a real experience, so it doesn’t count.

What could go wrong? Give people a choice other than alt+f4 at the countdown (to avoid 5v5 assassin games and avoid Leaver status)

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Options. I push for options to give people the potential.

You do have to consider that any additional queue pulls from queues and further dilutes the playerbase, which Blizzard has to be pragmatic about.

EDIT: also can we just all agree to stop mode shaming forever? ARAM was popular enough for a rebranding and is the first additional specific queue we’ve seen for the game since the adjustment of ranked and the addition of brawls. You don’t have to like ARAM, because everyone else already does that for you, but if you guys could stop claiming that all this waiting and frustration and rainbow matchmaking and assassin walls are all somehow “more” “real” than a mode with 20 second queues that warranted its own addition that would be really @#$%ing cool dawg.

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Blizzard already did this long ago but i cant wait more then10 sec que snowflakes cried loud and were heard. Now we are back again to were we were again

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Well, the request is for a checkbox, not a general enforcement.

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The idea is fine but imaging how que time will be. The player pool the MM can choose from gets smaller since it can only take people who clicked yes in that box

Also what will happen with the people who clicked no. Thier wait time will sky rock as well.

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We had this, got removed cuz the playerbase complained about queue times.
Adding it as a toggle would still increase queue times, even to those who didn’t want this feature and kept it toggled off.
So prob won’t happen, sry.

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A fair bit less iconic than the English VA version but it’ll make do. :joy:

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Thanks :'D
Which do you like the most? I prefer the english, than the hungarian (might be nostalgia) and I legit hate the japanese version.

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You’re welcome!
English has the best vocalization but I don’t hate the Japanese. It also seems most versions copy the original Japanese in terms of expression. Curiously for example the Hungarian dub may had been directly translated from Japanese.
It’s certainly odd listening to the Japanese after mostly hearing other versions, tho.

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Whoa, dude… no offense to ARAM players.

Since the topic was based on the Tank + Healer experience, I was considering the “standard” game modes… with standard maps etc… I’m sure everyone got the point. ARAM can be fun, sure, but it’s not the subject here.

“Dilluting the pool” it’s a good argument. But take a good hard look at the state of QM. If I recall it’s the most played game mode (or should be at least neck to neck with Vs. AI), but it’s a BAD EXPERIENCE, considering Blizzard’s quality.

Even if some people have fun in those absolutely random matches… the game WAS NOT meant to be played that way. Way too many heroes have no space in a 5v5 assassin deathmatch, or 1 bruiser/tank 4 assassin.

We can also argue that not knowing which map you get sent to beforehand is a travesty… Most abathur and TLV players would surely agree… but I digress.

Thing is: In my server the options are a 40 minute queue for Storm League or a LITERAL 30 SECOND one for QM in the state we all know. Yes, i can alt+f4 when i see the team has no Tank/Heals on the countdown screen, but the game wasn’t meant to be played that way as well.

That is a very bad experience, considering a Blizzard game, I’m not satisfied and am trying to gauge if the playerbase reading the forums would agree on that.

IF WE ADVOCATE FOR PLAYER OPTIONS

Give us a mode to GUARANTEE TANKS & HEALERS and have a standard game experience. Would indeed dillute the player base, but would make people have the (approximately, at least) best option for what they’re looking for.

Don’t like to wait? Uncheck the boxes and get ready for another 5v5 assassin death match… featuring OW ultra mobility and stealth heroes everywhere.

IF WE ADVOCATE FOR NO OPTIONS

Not dilluting the player base has merits, I agree to that.
So, cut QM’s head off. Have Unranked be the standard game mode. People would know the map they’ll be facing, will be locked into the role they chose… everyone’s happy.

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This actually not only increases your queues, it ruins the queues for people who don’t mind that QM is QM.

Options sound nice in theory, but active players are still a finite resource.

If you really don’t mind waiting, and hate not having a tank and healer then wait in the SL queue.

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As someone who also lives in a low population server (AUS/NZ), I would prefer if they got rid of unranked draft.

Ranked and unranked are exactly the same thing except without the epeen bling.

QM is great because you get to play whatever character you feel like without the social pressure.

I would love to get into the strategy of drafting but +30min SL queue times does not make it worth it.

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I’m actually curious how many “options” were added to the menus after 2.0.

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Do you know why most games don’t match tanks and healers for all games?

Because not enough players queue as them as is.

Having an ‘option’ means that you’re trying to divide up what limited pool is available as is into even more options.

Assassins that queue into either none of the above, only enforced tank, only enforced healer, both enforced tank and healer.

Even if you ask for a forced tank, any tank that queues for a forced healer is now removed as an option from the other pool, which further divides the wait. You sit in lines waiting for games to complete that would have to have a priority that gets longer and longer and longer.

Furthermore, part of the issue of the lack of tanks/healers in Qm is because… (drum roll) there isn’t much incentive for them to pug it. Functionally, if a player expects to tank/heal anyway, then they’re better rewarded in either draft modes, pre-mades, or even custom maps (esp since discord groups do organize their own scrimmages)

So while the idea is that some claim they’re willing to wait to have those things, that doesn’t magically make more of them to be there, and you’re pretty much requesting something that further divides what little there is in the first place.

To some degree, it would be better if HotS narrowed the available modes to not split what few tanks/healer players there are, but at the end of the day the basic result is still the same: there aren’t enough to meet the demand for what people want.

So, the best solution is that if people want tank/healers, then they should start queueing as them and be the need they demand.

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  • Well, they already said it can’t be done because it would split the queue and just create 2 gamemodes.

  • The rules are there already, just not enough players queueing as tank or healer, so only some people have the luxury of playing with a tank + healer.

  • If it takes that much time for any other gamemode for you to find, splitting the queue would make QM the same thing for you, and that would be very very bad.

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Another option that doesn’t require as much work is for you to build your own groups. If you find yourself in a match with a good tank, ask them if they mind you adding them to your friends’ list. Over time, you will have a pool of people you know can play tanks or healers you can queue with.

Most of the people on my friends’ list (other than WoW guild stuff) are people who I met in game or on the forum. Since I love playing tanks, these friends will get a guaranteed tank in their game, or at least a tanky bruiser, when we queue together.

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or start adding more preks for tanks and healers? +50% xp, then+ gold, then +shards, and once a day + lootbox. start making it so ppl want to play a healer or tank for qm. only problem would ppl who always play them have too much free ingame currency.

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Please no. My favorite matches are one’s with zero healing. I’m not particular about tanks per say… but no…

Also, they could just put in a “requeue” button and save everyone the ALT+F4 reset.

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Wouldn’t be against it.
Those who do not play the tank and heal spot would have no issue but the ones queeing as dps surely will.

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I would prefer tank+healer+3 flex (possible role stacking) any day over what we currently have. Playing specific heroes almost guarantees another specific hero on the opposite side and if one of these is superior in many aspects, it makes for a very frustrating and boring match.

Before people come screaming about the drastic increase in queue times, who cares? I’ll either pick the role that is in higher demand with an xp bonus or random hero for an almost instant match.

It’s not like you have to worry about waiting 17 minutes for QM with your Valla because an overwhelming majority of players prefers ranged assassins for some reason in order to unlock the hero for Ranked mode.