Can you post one reply without bragging about your rank? The match maker does not match by top 200 but by MMR.
Plenty of people get more about the game than you without having your rank whatever you insist against it.
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Iâve always found it strange how my matchups change depending on what deck I decide to play. And of course if you call that out, they treat you like your some kind of conspiracy theorist around here
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the crazy thing for me is that the new cards for BSM allowed me to get rid of renathal in Wild for the BSM deck iâve been playing there
I was right then too, it just wasnât your experience, which, in your world, means it didnât exist. The bulk of the player base didnât care that it was suboptimal in their deck, the feels value of surviving was the point.
You are now experiencing what I was complaining about and have come to the same conclusions.
I appreciate the shout out, though.
Renathal shouldnât exist. You shouldnât be able to just stick this neutral card in your deck and suddenly jump your wins by 5% or more.
Although this sentence sounds pretty cool to me, I have to correct you.
It was âmy experienceâ because I knew of a counter, a reliable 70+% winrate counter back in the nerfed Renathal days.
If you wanted, you could have picked up the same deck(s), follow my lead and do the same, thus making it objectively clear that 35 hp renathal is more damage than good.
Now, I donât know of any such decks. Itâs quite possible that, while 35 hp and 40 cards were weak back in the day, 40 hp and 40 cards are overpowered now. Why? I donât know exactly. Could be a combination of multiple reasons:
a) 5 hp makes a lot of difference, itâs some sort of a critical point, a âphase transitionâ, which suddenly makes it hard to punish;
b) it could be that the powercreep made the 40 cards today much stronger than the 40 cards back in the day (3 expansions ago? 4?)
c)⌠anything you can think of, really.
Either way, the facts are:
a) 35 hp renathal was objectively bad as reliable counters did exist, to the point where you would deal 35 dmg to renathal warrior 1 turn faster than 30 dmg to a non-renathal warrior;
b) 40 hp renathal now appears to be pretty overpowered (I canât say it objectively is, because one person being aware of a reliable counter is enough to make this statement objectively false 
)
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Your statment here rests on an assumption that my issue was losing to it, and thatâs false.
It wasnât good, youâre correct there. There were clear counters, for sure, but you always had to slog through it because it was in half the decks at many ranks.
Well, now itâs also overpowered, as well. At least in mage. Luckily for me, I failed to make it work in Druid, which is what made me try (and succeed) with Mage.
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And thatâs really, really bad, imo.
I would love a format to play where Renathal doesnât exist⌠I had that in standard and Iâd like it back.
Itâs gone in less than a month.
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didnât you say you stopped playing/play seldom?
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if you canât beat 'em, join 'em - the deckâs really fun. Why not try it?
Itâs not hypocrisy to enjoy playing something you loathe to play against. Itâs consistency.
No, itâs not.
Never played a deck with Renathal and I never will on priciple.
The card shouldnât have ever been printed.
It most assuredly is the very definition of hypocrisy.
Which is the only thing thatâs hopeful about it. Damn thing should be removed entirely from all modes.
According to this definition:
the practice of claiming to have higher standards or more noble beliefs than is the case.
and this statement of yours:
Yes, it would be hypocritical, truly.
However, thereâs another definition of hypocrisy:
a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not : behavior that contradicts what one claims to believe or feel.
Now, if you feel that itâs tedious to play against Renathal, then itâs perfectly consistent and not hypocritical at all to play Renathal.
In this perspective, you never said anything about moral principles.
I know you actually did just say that, but I wish you hadnât, because I had a very close friend in high school who talked and behaved like you do most of the time. He was popular, very stubborn, very intelligent, but also very prejudiced/judgemental.
Needless to say, he didnât end up well. We havenât heard of him for more than 8 years now and the rumor has it he ended up in a mental facility completely overtaken with schizophrenia.
Just sayinâ. If you have reasons to take this to heart, Iâm glad I could help. If not, well, just shrug it off as you always do
WellâŚ
Blizzard probably meant the BS they done this time.
They got to see baku and genn not doing the push they wanted so they decided to try something stronger.
I would suggest people not happy with it to Just find something else to do because i donât see blizzard nerfing around XL decks.
And for blizzard i would suggest to use a little more of their budget and create cards specifically for this instead of ressurect cards from wild.
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https://ibb.co/CHF4WWC
11-0 against DK! With 71,2% winrate in 52 games!
At this point, I think Iâm ready for a best of 10 against your DK, bro 
I mean, 11-0 is hardly variance, eh
P.S. I play with 1 literally dead card - Fizzle. I play it every 15 games or so as a tempo drop, never actually even drew, let alone played a fizzleâs snapshot. I donât know what to replace it with; it gives me a feeling of safety, and besides, if it ainât broken, why change it?
You are missing my point. Yes your deck is better than the rest because you adjusted to the meta changes quicker than the rest. Does that mean the aggro decks will just stay gone and never enter back into this new meta again? We donât know because we havenât seen a weeks worth of data or the meta a chance to breathe and evolve. Ina week or so if the 40 card BSM is at the top of the ladder then yes itâs probably the best deck for this meta.
What everyone else doesnât understand is that at the very top of ANY competitive ladder. The best players are constantly evolving their decks to the meta to get that 1% or better advantage. If they see something that is going to be better than what is there currently they will switch to it in a heartbeat. The average player could care less and just wants their tried and true deck to continue to produce for them.
I wouldnât cut fizzle. Itâs in my 40 card DK deck as well for the long games. I would imagine it probably has itâs highest played win rate for you against the mirror if one of you donât take control of the game on turn 5-6.
I have no idea how i would fare against that version of BSM you are playing because honestly i have no experience against it. You are probably also not falling into the trap of getting board locked in games. A skill a think most of the BSM players arenât thinking about.
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Youâre flattering me, but I assure you, the success of this deck is a fluke xD Iâve been trying to optimize Smeetâs BSM more according to my comfort zone, experimenting with Reno Mage as well, and this is a kind of a cross-over between the two, specifically made to survive aggro decks xDD (how ironic!)
Itâs just fluke. But I do think I prefer my version over NoHands, because some of his mana curve looks pretty weird. But I guess everyone should play according to their own tempo needs
As I said, Iâve never managed to even draw, let alone play the Snapshot. I occasionally drop him for tempo when Iâm out of better plays, thatâs it
And, mirrors so far always ended pretty damn fast, even too fast for my taste xD (weird, ha? Whoâd say a control player lies in me xD I know I wouldnât xD )
I mean, if I do get boardlocked somehow, Iâll just play my draw/burn/removal cards instead, and itâs actually kind of an ideal situation for me xD
But usually it doesnât happen because the meta is full of minions which contest the elementals and because my deck is watered down with 10 more cards which arenât a Tsunami or a Conman.
Anyway, I would like to play against you to see if thereâs any merit to your hypes 
Although I enjoy your takes and I think theyâre pretty illuminating sometimes, I consider you to be some kind of a slack xD
Like, I get this feeling that you play just enough to hit legend with a mediocre MMR so you could keep winning the games WHILE experimenting (which means you prefer to play in dumpster ranks while belonging to top 2k at least)
Iâd like to test if thatâs true from personal experience xD
But donât worry, it probably ainât happening because I donât have mage cards on NA and you probably donât have anything on EU.
Not everyoneâs a degen like me
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I donât play on NA iâm on APAC. Iâm American but i live abroad.
I am curious to see how the meta evolves with this deck emerging again. I probably do slack competitively but itâs just not who i am most of the time. I am more of a creative player. Likely why i was involved on design teams and testing quite a bit in my life. I also know if i get competitive at something i go down a rabbit hole pretty far and get too involved.
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I might have to borrow some of that mentality from you xDD
Is that teachable?
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Absolutely. I learned it all from my wife. Before her i was a mess being overly competitive at everything in life. To the point it effected my health.
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No, I meant, is that fanaticism you had before your wife teachable xDD
I usually have lines I donât cross. In this case, itâs a video game, yeah I wanna win, but like, come on, no way Iâm making this tedious and exhausting like work.
I might play control when games are over in 9.3 turns max
But I definitely ainât grinding 120 turns in a warrior mirror, ever.
Ah I see you ve never played the fatigue long game. The game kicks you out after I think 30 turns and counts it a draw lol. And yes I played plenty of those, when I thought the game was fun.
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