Worst patch in the year. Just rollback this junk

The only thing that is clear to everyone is this. They are going to have to do something with the cards that currently exist in standard that Steal and Destroy the Starship mechanic. Players will NOT engage with the mechanic if they know on turn 10 either Reno is going to wipe their board or Yogg gonna go all “Ninja got your woman” on their starship.

We haven’t even gotten into the whole. What if Priest becomes playable outside of over heal? They can literally Steal, Copy and Erase your starship from the game. If i knew the Starship mechanic was going to be the new meta for the game. I would absolutely make a Priest deck and copy your work and then steal it to beat you up with it.

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I am nothing if not honest. Its genuinely been a lifelong problem

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I don’t think this is necessarily the case. It’s not a problem if scissors beats paper, so long as paper beats rock. If Starship decks are good against whatever decks are really good against Reno decks, then Starship having a bad matchup vs Reno wouldn’t require adjustment. The real issue would be if, instead of being paper, Starships are just a bad scissors — weak against the same decks Reno decks are weak to, good against the same decks Reno decks are good against, while also losing to Reno. I could see either happening, but right now I think your concerns are premature.

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Looking at the list of pieces there’s no way to give the starship Charge. So after you bring it into play it’s going to have to survive at least a turn before it does anything. With so many ways to remove from the board i don’t see how they survive this single turn against even the average deck.

It’s basically the same thing we see from Titans. They come down and you have a turn to remove them before they activate a second time and impact the game more than you ever want them to. The difference is that the player spent the whole game making this minion and might never get any use from it. That’s also why i think the cards that trigger off building it are the real power of the starship. They will at least see some value in game to an extent.

All the more reason they should have made the Titans like Planeswalkers and had them activating in a dormant state. They could have done some interesting things with the ships in a dormant state. Instead they have them activate to become a giant target on the board.

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Ok, let’s be careful.

So what’s the topic here? Video games.

Ok yeah, I’m pretty sure we’re safe to do some hypocrisy shaming. It’s not like we’re discussing some serious moral or political issue.

In the context of video games, there’s rarely a straight “right” or “wrong”. It’s mostly just “I like rock, nerf paper, scissors is fine”

Then again, even if we were talking about a more serious issue, there might not be a “right” or “wrong” either. The world isn’t all black and white.

Even in the event you established what’s “right” or “wrong”, you may be presented with questions on what we as individuals or as a society should do about it, how should we encourage right things and prevent wrong things, etc. Those questions do not necessarily have “right” or “wrong” answers.

Given that it’s hard to establish what is “right” or “wrong”, it’s understandable that people look for hypocrisy and/or inconsistency. Even if you can’t tell if somebody is “right” or “wrong”, you can at least test if their actions are consistent with their stated positions.

Somebody who is consistent is more likely to be met with a “I disagree with you, but I respect you”, instead of a “you’re just a hack”

/end old man ramble

Yes, as I’ve said, the whole she-bangs with the starship is the fact that starship pieces are a taunt without a taunt

You just have to remove them because:

a) they have nasty effects, and
b) they’re lower stats anyway,

with starship functioning as a threat, a timer of a sort.

From a dude who served in Bosnia:
No. You really don’t.

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The starships look pretty bad though… I mean the DH one is essentially a mini bloodlust and looked the be the best of the bunch but the rest of them dont have that great effects…I mean if you can get the hunter one to 5 attack it will auto destroy yogg (if yogg isnt handbuffed itself). I’m pretty sure bomboss does NOT destroy the starships when they are dormant so outside of that one tech card and reno they’re safe.

As far as the patch goes were people really that in love with marin scam? You can still cheat out big spells on turn 5 with ease which has become quite a tired mechanic as the few classes with access to cheat out a giant board have overrun those classes which cannot.

I think they should refrain from creating any more build a board cards like the dragon thing gnomewhatever, pipsi, dungar, razzle-dazzle, pack the house ect. (although its strange pack the house never caught on… when it can be reduced to turn 6 or occasionally turn 5 as well).

I mean the inevitable direction of the game are games decided on the mulligan as people win/lose on turn 2 (see current MTG) if they continue along the same design path. I hope they try to return to a more incremental gameplay vs. the MEGA POWER SWING turns but I will not hold my breath

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You’ve got it here. They look like a clunky, slow, and bad waste of effort in the current state of things.

I don’t really consider the ship itself a “threat”. They have to waste 5 mana just to bring it into play and it sits there for a turn. That feels like a mechanic from 10 years ago HS not 2024.

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To be fair most of them are probably expected to die which is why they have deathrattles… Only the warlock (spellburst) and druid (cost reduction/aura) wont do anything when they die. DH has rush, DK has deathrattle, and the hunter one just explodes on contact and deathrattles afterwards.

Now its debatable whether any of the effects are worth 5 mana (I say no) or even playing the starship pieces themselves to build the thing are worth it.

I say its a lot more like C’thun… where you play a bunch of inferior minions to build an end game… but the end game piece seems to fall flat to me although I hope I’m wrong as it does seem like a neat idea.

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Lol this, is actually not satire

This is the direction i was pointing at with the “10 years ago” comment. It seems like an inferior C’thun build. At least with C’thun there was a chance from a certain point for C’thun to create lethal or solid chance to wipe a board and some opponent health. I feel like the whole process need a really big pay off neutral all the Starship classes could have played.

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there is the Exodar… i guess that’s a payoff…

With the neutral 4 drop starship, every ship can get taunt and a DR that gives armor.

…and you’ll probably need it, since starship pieces in general start off being somewhat weak. It’s only after you build up a few pieces would it be worthwhile to launch one for 5.

And even then, as noted, the starships by themselves aren’t the biggest threat that can win games by themselves. They can support your existing board or if you have stuff in hand that works with your starship (e.g druid starship supports arcane spells)

Having just said that, I would not rule out druids with their usual ramp things would allow them to turn into some kind of aggressive starship build. Their arcane spells lean towards helping them build board, and the starship itself can be an annoying taunt that protects that board.

People thinking only 2 netdecks are playable is so dumb. The reason they believe it is that third parties like VS give them the delusion only netdecks listed there with thousands upon thousands of samples are worth even considering.

Netdecks should be considered even with ~60 samples in reality; it’s not just a viable way; it’s the best way.

It’s objectively the worst patch ever, lol

I definitely think theres a crowd of people who just want everything buffed to the max so that a one drop is lethal turn 2 if you happen to draw it.

And there’s a group of people who want games to go into fatigue again. I’m in the latter group.

I can’t say I understand the former group, they must really love staring at the loading screen, cause they will be playing random game after random game largely determined by card draw, much like a slot machine.

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Are you only playing warrior, or only priest or only druid?

Let’s make everyone draw their entire deck by turn 2.

Problem solved.

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