Hey Blizzard,
on your reward track I was given the Ceaseless Expanse legendary card. Since I only play Wild since like 2018, that card has now 0 value to me since it is banned.
How about giving players the option to disenchant banned cards for full value?
You could give us that. Why would you not give us that?
My hope is that they’ll give a full disenchant value when they figure out a way to nerf the card. It was the first legendary I opened from this set
It really depends on what they decide to do, and the language they use to describe it.
I know this isn’t a “court of law” but if we look at past card changes similar to this, the dev team typically only gives full dust value to cards that were “nerfed,” and we also have plenty of historical precedent laid out where they make it abundantly clear THEY are the ones who technically decide what does, or does not, fit that descriptor.
So basically it’s entirely up to them. They could simply lower the mana cost to 10 and call it a day, that would fix most of the Wild cheese shenans and in their eyes, they “buffed” it by lowering the mana cost. Even if they axed the ability with that change. They could say “card was rebalanced” instead of “nerfed” etc.
I found it weird too, but apparently it’s the culture of this company every time.
This isn’t a F2P-bound game; it’s a MICROTRANSACTIONS bound game; it’s in the official announcements back in ~2014.
They can just fix it so holy wrath cannot deal more than 25 dmg
Yeah, the problem’s more on wrath than on Expanse.
Cuz this strat’s existed before with Shirvallah the Tiger, I think?
But the combo wasn’t nearly as much of a sure fire win condition back then as it is now…
At least it’s usable in standard, even if only to make me face palm with my enitre phone when I cast Pride off symphony of sins and end up drawing Mr. Ceaseless while he’s at 40 cost.
“Hello fellow gamers”
“Im just like you I play game all day 2”
“HS is definitely not rigged like MTGonline was found out to be rigged”
“Oh man I did really well with my pack openings you should buy pack 2 very fun”
lol…
Aw goddangit, he got bitten by the troll from the other topic… he’s one of them now 
Quick, someone get the hose while I have it distracted, they’re afraid of bathing 
psst People are waking up skinwalker
so what drugs you on
He’s referring to how MTG Arena manipulates draws within certain variances to try and smooth out mana flood / screw.
For context in case people are unfamiliar, land is your mana in that game, except it starts in your deck and occupies card slots counting against your deck size. And you can have as many or as few as you want but you have to draw it before you can play it, just like any other card.
Most people tend to run somewhere between 18 to 24 lands in a standard 60 card deck, depending on the particulars surrounding said deck’s construction and format. And, land is colored on top of that. So Forests yield green mana, Mountains yield red, etc. And you can have multiple colors (or no colors) in your deck, again depending on contextual specifics.
All of this boils down to land RNG being a fundamental part of how the game is played, and getting the wrong land / too much land / too little land is all just a giant source of pain and frustration that MTG players just kind of live with. It’s like when Yoggy casts a random spell that hits you in the face. Sometimes RNG just works against you.
So when MTG Arena was outed as manipulating draws to prevent those pain points, people like Aggrevane point to that as proof that “GAME IS RIGGED, TRUST IS BROKEN, NOBODY CAN LIKE THIS ANYMORE OR ELSE THEY’RE SHEEPLE PAID ETC.”
Meanwhile, most Arena enthusiasts, myself included? We’re just playing the game, having fun. And incidentally, none of this is relevant to hearthstone.
they really shouldn’t manipulate draws though. defeats the purpose of a card game. on that i agree with him. just the whole him calling you a skinwalker thing is what made me ask what drugs he was on.
Ehhh. If you’re an absolute purist, I guess so. Though I will say, I doubt very many people have ACTUALLY played MTG in adherence to TOTAL strictness to the formal rules. 99% of it is house-ruled in one way or another. So like, I get the critique, but it’s unimportant in most use cases.
And it’s still 100% irrelevant to HS. Like, talk about apples to oranges… “Look, this one company committed tax evasion, that means that OTHER company in the same market ALSO commits tax evasion! And anyone who disagrees, are skinwalkers!”
EDIT: what even IS that supposed to mean, anyway? Is he being anti-semitic?
2nd EDIT: Google tells me a skinwalker is a sort of Navajo mythological / cultural figure. “A witch that shapeshifts, usually using its powers to cause misfortune.”
So I guess he was trying to play on how I’ve got Malfurion as my avatar, and main druids? Cuz they shapeshift? That’s about the only way I can see him using that in an innocuous manner.