Why all the vitriol

Yes, I play one class, mage. So if I make a thread, it will almost have to be about mage, as that is my experience.
I don’t understand why single class players get so much criticism/or get flagged for no reason here.
It almost feels like some think we have no right to play, or to question the State of the Game.
I suppose the case could be made that others think our situation is self inflicted? And therefore, We have no right to complain if Our class gets cards that aren’t as good? Because We could just play a different class, or quit this game?
Have you considered what that actually means?
I have collected cards since 2013. I wanted to be like APXVoid: (didn’t happen lol). But mainly I wanted to be f2p once Standard happened.
I chose mage because that was what I knew the best, and had the most cards for. It could have been any class, that is just how it worked out.
I like mage, and I don’t think I should have to defend that, nor should anyone else.
And I believe it is easy to criticize single class players if you have never had to play as such.
You try watching your favorite decks get nerfed to unplayable, or have those playstyles removed, only to be given away to other classes with even better versions. You might feel the same as many.
When I started, Mage had Tempo/ Burn, Freeze/Stall, and Secret. The closest thing that they have now that I can find is ele mage. It’s an ok deck, but other classes are running the exact playstyles that were taken from mage, while mage isn’t allowed.
Why?
Secret mage? It got nerfed hard in Mage, but they printed cards that actually boosted the playstyle for Hunter and Rogue.
Freeze/ stall? Ice block was removed, but other classes have immune, and no one seems to think that’s broken at all, even though Ice block is a core mechanic in Wow for mage, and they made the other class stuff up.
Or later on, HP Mage? There are so many classes that can kill you with Hp/Weapons in Wild, but Mage has never been truly viable, and believe me, I have had the best deckbuilders I know try repeatedly.
What mage has gotten is No minion, (which has been nerfed every time it has been attempted.) and token decks that play like Shaman or Pally, while Shaman, Druid, Rogue, and others get spell damage, curve, stall, burn, and speed decks.
So, try and understand that frustration.
Getting beaten by a deck running a playstyle that your class used to excel at, but is no longer allowed is more than a bit maddening:)
Anyhow. Good gaming.
I hope that all players get what they want out of the product.

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Because some people actually care about mage as a class.

It is a fact that you don’t see people talking when hunter is junk.

And sincerely we’re getting more attention from blizzard lately and buffs incarnates everything the people asking for power reset hate.

It is probably time to talk about what blizzard is doing with mage lately too.

They’re 100% openly releasing underpowered cards on purpose and correcting stuff on the fly:

And before someone says otherwise this is the list of mage cards blizzard buffed that still on standard:
Audio splitter
Infinitize the maxitude
Lightshow
Dj manastorm
Watercolor artist
Frost lich cross stich
Manufacturing error
Marooned archmage
Raylla sand sculptor
Tsunami(people say it is a buff , so it is a buff)

Team 5 basically buffed a entire set worth of cards already and only on this rotation. A entire set worth of cards team 5 recognized that were bellow average.

This isn’t something you do because “public pressure”.

They know what happens if they release things “correctly” and are doing this on purpose. So continue whinning and whining hard regardless if people like it or not.

I don’t want to whine. And I don’t really see the deck that those cards are in as underpowered.
But, it is another no minion deck that people who dislike mage will complain about.
I really wish they would just let mage be mage again, instead of letting druid and rogue have that job.

I think your posts at times lacks focus.

It is cluttered with too many of your dissatisfactions in a jumbled way. e.g. jumping comparisons from Wild to STD and back.

You also does not manage the thread well at times, getting off tracked when other posters brings the topic in other directions.

But then, all that changes would remove the your unique personality from this forum. Thus, stay “mally” :smiley:

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Sincerely…

Don’t care. Everything has something someone could dislike about.

I created a incredible disgust for no minion decks and would rather have they to not exist based on what they do to the mage design when they exist in standard.

Still they exist so that is it.

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I do tend to get side barred, lol.
But, I really hope that Mage gets to be itself some time soon.
I don’t think summoning a bunch of free water elementals is that.
I told someone else the deck feels more like a shammy deck to me.
As I remember, Summoning was always a shaman/druid/Lock thing until a certain someone decided to steal all things mage for their pet classes.
And, I hope that others will allow single class players to speak their minds:)

You are always allowed to speak your mind but

  1. Follow forum COC
  2. Prep to defend your views
  3. Prep to accept relevant counters
  4. Ignore posts that leads nowhere
  5. Show kindness and love
  6. Donate a free pack to certain poster that start with “R”
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I honestly wish the game allowed old players like me to just will my collection to someone else.
I don’t understand the game at all anymore. I see pallys with windfury, lol.
And now mage is relegated to summoning glorified tokens.

I think I finally figured you out.

It’s not (just) about the fact that you’re a one-trick-pony because you dislike change and learning from scratch.

Mainly, you are lonely and you lack communication. The only thing here that you CAN talk about is Mage. You’re also full of frustrations and have a low tolerance for negative emotions, so you need a timely venting session, often.

If that’s the case, I empathize with you.

Ofc, even if this is right (which I’m not sure it is), and even though I truly do empathize if that’s the case, you’ll probably get offended or annoyed by this post.

In that case, please forgive me, like I forgive you for your trespassings xD

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Parts of this are right. I do spend alot of time alone.
And I have said before: This forum is like my Tik Tok.
I come here to spend time and interact.
And yeah, I can only speak about mage with any hope of sounding informed.
It’s very true that I dislike what has been done to the game.
I think class roles are essential to the game’s continued existence.
I could be wrong. But I believe that having diversity in classes and playstyles is what attracted players to begin with.
So imo, the entire game might end up being a “one- trick pony”, as you say.
And I don’t like negative attacks on the people who post here.
I save all of that for the creators of the cards:)

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There is plenty of diversity. I do regret many decks you missed the opportunity to try while they were strong, from classes like Warlock and DK, that play exactly like your dream Mage deck

I mean, just take a look at DK’s hero power - it’s literally a different version of Mage’s hero power - it’s deal 1 dmg, to a minion or face, but with a caveat - you can’t bypass taunts, BUT, to compensate, it’s a minion which can be buffed or otherwise manipulated AND when it dies, it gives you a corpse.

So at the onset, there’s a great similarity between the two classes. Both play for tempo and use a lot of spells. In fact, DK lately plays much MORE like Mage used to than any Mage I’ve seen for years!

But I digress.

The point is, diversity exists for those who seek it. You don’t seek diversity. You seek routine - you seek what you already know, like and are used to. Change makes you uncomfortable, it opens new possibilites which are not all wanted: it’s risky, unnecessarily so.

Even when not changing is obviously worse, at least it comes without spending any energy xD

I am capable of change. What I won’t do is destroy my existing collection for the sake of change.
And I am a slow learner.
Even now, a new mage deck takes me months to become proficient with.
That’s why I didn’t play the Water ele deck that everyone complains about very much.
I knew it would get nerfed before I could really settle into it.

Ain’t no way you would have any problems with the collection in the long run

Sure, you’d have to prioritize standard, I guess, but wild would always follow suit

Same here, but it’s manageable. Learning is the part of the fun! Afterwards it’s all automatic and repetitive, anyway.

Now, that’s completely wrong.

  1. Mage got broken now again, because of Renathal, even AFTER the nerfs

  2. If it’s not costing you too much, you should probably still try to play the broken deck even if you know it’s getting killed, to learn how to play against it until it does

  3. Some of my most favorite and successful decks were nerfed before I tried them when they were peaking, lol. Sludgelock, peaked at 60+ winrate before the nerfs. It was so scandalous that I would lose to the deck without ever realizing how fun and challenging it is. When I tried it, it was tier 3, forgotten, rejected by everyone. Yet, it brought me so much joy and ranks!

And now it looks like Renathal BSM Mage could be next, at least for a couple of weeks xDD

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The OP refers to some of my posts saying “maining a class” doesn’t make much sense. It’s not WoW that you have to grind for gear to even be allowed to start competing.

I mean it’s technically not required; it’s almost exclusively a psychological choice; the game is not that complex to be incapable to learn another deck.

Imagine that you were on an international travel forum and the only thing you could talk about are your repeated trips to Prague, and no other locations.

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Mage is my favorite class in Hearthstone’s as well, but’s that’s no surprise, because it was also one of my favorite classes in WoW. Although I was playing a lot of Priest just before I quit WoW.

I think Mage became the favorite class for a lot HS players when the game was new, because the tutorial started players off with using Jaina.

During the early days, I played a lot of Tempo Mage and Secret Mage, but I despised playing against or playing with Freeze Mage—I hated losing to it and I felt bad winning with it, because I felt like it was a toxic, badly designed archetype. I felt the same way about Quest Mage and taking extra turns.

I also hate when Mage is reduced to being a meme class when RNG Mage is strongest win condition and archetype.

I have, and I feel similarly to you.

I will also point out that you are awfully limited, because you only like a few Mage archetypes, like Secret Mage, Burn Mage, and Ping Mage, which makes your play experience even more limited and repetitive.

You are clearly uninterested BSM, but I think it’s a decently, refreshing Mage archetype. I am currently missing out on XL BSM Mage, while focusing on this week’s Tavern Brawl.

While I had favorite classes, I played every class in WoW, and I used to be able to say the same for HS, but I absolutely hate the DH class.

It can be quite refreshing to play different classes, and doing so is quite helpful in learning each class’ strengths and weaknesses.

Now, while I do not expect you to heed such advice, I do think you could benefit from experimenting more with other classes to find a second favorite class to play for when Mage is in the toilet for any particular meta.

i am a potato. vitriol adds flavor to my blandness although i do not provide vitriol myself i absorb it from reading others’ posts. i am also the worst person ever and think I’m God sometimes so I guess I’m an egomaniacal schizophrenic bastard.

anyway I don’t hate you Mall, I don’t necessarily agree about everything but I don’t hate you.

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I knew I was getting GLaDOS vibes

Well you shouldn’t be getting flagged or made fun of. That’s just wrong.

However, I think the constructive criticism could be warranted because you only have a 1 sided story. If you aren’t playing other decks, you really don’t know what the entire experience is like.

A classic example here is with objection. Anyone not playing Mage can clearly see the annoyance of this card and celebrated its rotation but mage mains likely don’t get what all the fuss is about.

If you’re just playing 1 class, then certain things will seem broken to you because it’s a hard mage counter, while it actually sucks in the rest of the meta but you don’t know that because you don’t have that experience. The opposite is also true. Things you think are weak because you hard counter it might actually be broken.

This is the entire problem with playing just 1 class.

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IDC what you do with thread creation TBH, I know this is just you. Its when you derail threads about other classes/cards into Mage discussions that it irks me.

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