Seen people compare 6k mmr in bg to legend in constructed a few times. But what is this based on?
Constructed bonus runs out at diamond 5. Bg bonus at 6k mmr. So i would expect 6k to equal diamond 5. With legend beeing like 6500-7000.
Legend is the last floor like 6k mmr in bg. But is the bonus aspect not more important?
Yea legend prolly is around 7000-7500
What bonus runs out at 6k?
It is not 6 000 rating legend for battlegrounds starts at 8000 if you go to leaderboards the lowest rank on their shows rating 8000.
Im with Carnivore on this, Ive never encountered any “bonus” in BGs that “runs out at 6k” They dont have an equivalent function to what you get in constructed for when the season resets and you climb the ladder again. Stars i think they call em? But BGs have no such thing to aid someone’s climb again after a reset.
Are you referring to Rank Floors? They happen at every 500 ranking until you hit 6k and thats where they stop having additional floors beyond that. So you can climb up but no matter how many times you lose you wont fall below the last rank floor you got yourself to. But I dont see how these could equate to the stars in any way…
Yes, it does. Maybe you just aren’t good enough to get it. It actually stops based on your last ranking, but regardless of how high you’ve been last season it stops at 6500 for everyone and the max points for first place is 300.
This time I was still getting big bonus points up to 6k and I’m not even particularly good at the game at this point. I typically get 150-200 extra points until 5k and then it slows down significatly. By 6k it’s only five to ten points for me, but was still getting bigger points this time around.
Making Legend in Ranked is a lot easier than making leaderboards in BGs
It absolutely is 6K. The vast majority of players don’t even make it to 6K at the end of a season. Lets not fool ourselves either. Most player never make it to 8K or more.
If you can make 6K before the end of a season you should be very happy with your progress. Only a handful go to above 8K. You cannot make a one to one comparison between BG’s and Ranked HS. BG’s is far harder to get higher rating then getting a high rank in a ranked mode of Hearthstone.
Once you hit 6K rating in BG’s you cannot fall below 6K.
That’s false. Right now half of the games HSReplay records are 5800+. Only 20% are 6600+. That means almost a third of the BGs lobbies are between 5800 and 6600 right now.
By the end of the season about half of the games will be below 6k, about 30% will be 6k-7k, and about 20% will be 7k+.
The distance from 6k to 8k is HUGE. Getting from one ranked floor to the next isn’t that hard, but once those floors stop it’s a different story.
That’s one system to look at. I’ll take the word of the people at Blizzard who made that statement over a website with questionable data in BG’s.
If blizzard comes out and tells us again that the numbers have changed i’ll believe it. Till then i’ll go with what we know and say most never make it to 6K.
I think you should check the wording of the Blizzard statement. I bet you they were NOT talking about where people END the season. If one just looks at raw games, including early in the season (when I imagine people play more), then I could see a “vast majority” type statement not contradicting tracker numbers.
They never made that distinction so both of our statements could be wrong or right. We will never know because we don’t have the raw data. HSreplay is a miniscule snapshot of any mode of the game and should be taken with a grain of salt. Especially in BG’s since it’s the most played mode by quite a bit.
The problem is that playing even one game of BG’s registers a player on any data. If they filtered it more by games played. I’m sure that slightly below 7k would probably be where most players land at the end of a season.
Well I can agree with that. Heck, I think most finish just barely above 6k. But they finish above 6k because there’s a floor there.
This is still false though.
That makes it Legend. You can not fall from Legend to D5.
BTW why do you put a lot of newlines in your texts?
If they think it’s only rank floors that is a “bonus”, then 6000 is legend, because you can’t fall from Legend to D5 either.
But there are floors at every 500 ranking in BGs until you hit 6k… once you get to say 4500… you can lose all day and not fall below 4500. same for when you reach 5k, and 5.5k and up til 6k. 6k is just the last floor because if you climb to 6.5k and start to lose again you can fall all the way back down to 6k but no lower. I tend to hover most seasons at that threshold and have begun to make sure I dont cross into 6k because thats usually when every game is full of people I have no business getting paired with that are thousands of ranks higher than I am. Im at 5.6k now and If I just go in and auto concede over and over and over I can’t fall below my last floor of 5.5k.
Same exact thing happens in standard mode, every 5 levels of a different color starting at Bronze, if i get to Bronze 5 I can’t fall below it, and if I make it Plat 5, same thing. I dont know where the final floor is in their system like how BG’s final floor is 6k, so yall will have to be the information source on that equivalent.
Neon, what on earth are you talking about? Can you show any images that are displaying some other type of Currency/Points/whatever to your BG matches that would actually clarify what you are going on about? Because so far it just sounds like you are earning regular points at the end of a match being anywhere from a negative number to upwards of 200-300 points for getting first or 2nd. Unless you’re getting a different display of points at the end of a match than I am, and please show us anything to that effect, all I’m getting from your description is normal end of game points based on your performance in that match…
I firmly beliew it is meant to 8000 because on the leaderboards this is the text
The players featured below have employed in-the-moment decision making and unyielding dedication to make the most of Bob’s offerings and achieve a most noteworthy feat!
They dont show any rating below 8000 which to me means that this is legend in battlegrounds.
Just because you lose the rank floor does not mean it is legend, rating 6000 - 8000 is similar to diamond 5 to legend.
At diamond 5 you do lose your starbonus but this does not make it legend it just means to get the highest rank you need break the barrier by getting to 8000 rating without rank floor.
I like to think of it some challenge to finaly get to 8000 to prove you are worty to be counted amongst the best battleground players 
And you can’t fall from platinum 5 to 10 either… but I don’t think 6k is anything more than average play in BG. That rank floor is likely the cut between regular good players and mediocre players, but is statistically the middle of the pack.
Legend is likely closer to leaderboard 8k area.
Peole with high internal MMR (which is how you match) get additional ranking points after rank resets. The reset only affects your visible rank, not your internal (hidden) MMR, which is how you are matched in games.
When ranking is reset to zero, many players, including myself, get up to 300 points for first place instead of the usual approximately 100. This continues until we are close to our internal MMR or over 6.5k, whichever happens first.
If you don’t experience this, it should tell you something about your actual BG skill.
The Leaderboard argument is a double standard and hence a non-sequitur, since low Legend doesn’t get on Leaderboards either.
I meant you can’t fall from Legend to anything else; you stay in Legend forever(for the month); you may get a worse number but it’s still Legend and if it goes to MMR they’re both the same at shrinking it and Legend has a handicap on low MMR because it loses Stars on the next month so it’s not better off.
It’s not a double standard if it represents an equivalent amount of the population, and it’s absolutely not non sequitur to think that the equivalent of diamond is not the equivalent of legend.
I said “closer to 8k” and I mean that because you have to actually win more than you lose to climb past 6500, which makes 6k diamond, not legend.
There’s no way that 50% of bg players are legend, but that’s what people who think 6k is legend want to believe. The stats are clear that 6k is pretty mid for active players - basically the middle third of players is +/- about 500 rank points from 6k each season. That’s not remotely equivalent to ranked legend.