Turbulus buff is a very strange idea

Buffing this card makes no sense unless shudderwock is removed from the set. No idea why this needs changing at all.

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It is simple.

Blizzard is forcing the Mini set in the meta.
Not more and not less.
In fact there is a whole discussion that should be done on mini set design based on this mini set release but most players are just too slow to get it.

But basically.

Mini sets should be less about How many cards are powerful in old decks and more about How many New decks It can push into the meta.

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It is strange and makes no sense balance wise.

However, it’s not a buff for balance.

This is a buff because the other tourist is nerfed and they still want people to purchase the mini set.

Nerf 1 tourist.
Buff the other.

The buff makes absolutely zero sense in any other context. It was not under performing, Shaman was in a very good state, and there are at least 50 other cards they could have buffed instead and they didn’t.

They specifically chose the one other Tourist in the set to buff.

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If it goes to 3 it will become an auto keep in the mulligan. It will also make the card far more playable and powerful.

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oh 100%. Play rates go way up. I think they want people to ditch the DH Tourist Pirate package and move over to that deck. 3 mana would absolutely do that.

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That’s exactly why i have no confidence in these balancing decisions. I see no desire to buff a card like smash and grab which could potentially make rogue viable again if this card could be activated in a different, and more timely manner.

There are plenty of other underperforming cards that are more deserving. The fact this one was chosen to be buffed is uncanny.

I don’t ignore other classes, i simply talk about the ones i have a lot of experience playing. For example, I never have anything good to say about warrior because i find them tedious to play. They can’t seem to find a good balance at all between early days weapon warrior and current yawn war… (fell asleep mid sentence)

Edit: wakes up mid snore - wait, i was wrong nothing new to add - falls asleep again.

It only needs to do it’s job by being a tourist. it’s fine.

But thats a wild card

shudderblock >.< please don’t be so literal.
I would never debase myself by playing wild.

I’m more optimistic (I can dream). My wild theory is that they have good simulation or formulation software inhouse to predict the meta; they KNOW there are theoretical decks that exist that people haven’t discovered yet or aren’t popular yet; they try to nudge players towards them.

Then again that was my theory with the Sandwidch Warrior but I have doubts that theoretical deck exists; but sometimes I know decks are unreasonably unpopular; e.g. they implied in a tweet yesterday that some simple paladins can obliterate Tsunami which is true.

I have a theoretical deck using only 1 mana minions, crystal cove, waterdancer and a dream. Doesn’t mean it’s any good or that blizzard should buff it to make it viable.

whats the buff and why do ytou think is strange?

It’s strange because the card does not need buffing. It does not need more stats, it’s a perfectly statted minion for what it does.

Make it cost less mana? hell no - then we’ll have shudderblock turbulis nonsense to deal with on a massive scale.

don’t gove it a stronger battlecry buff because then we have even worse shudderblock nonsense to deal wit. EDIT: I stand by my typo because i am upset this buff is being considered and is happening.

I’m sensing a trend here…

You want to buff it? Get rid of shudderblock. just erase that card. The game doesn’t need it. It’s just shadow step on turbo mode.

so
this is all about them not making the card you lost to unplayable and buffing another one instead… :roll_eyes:

Explain something to me. I only ever see Turb used in wild and Cookie in standard, why is that?

no it has nothing to do with that whatsoever.

I am sincere when i say turbulus is in a great state and needs no change.
Do you think it needs to be changed?
Do you find the card lacking?

It does make sense. Turbulus decks inferior to cookie ones. Mage getting hard nerfed will give rise to other classes that shaman struggles against.

What doesnt make sense is that theyre only buffing one card and only nerfing two. Players generally like little tweaks to cards here and there. Some of the new cards would be fun if playable.

what does not makes sense is that they had the entire development time of turbulus to realize if it was “inferior” to cookie.

what doesn’t make sense is that there is a list of cards that need buffing before turbulus gets his turn. it’s an elemental could be any gender really.

buffing him now is only a cash grab pure and simple. It is not healthy for the game.

You seem to be sure the mini set is designed after the expansion. The mini set is probably just a part of the expansion, cut off artificially to have a …mini-set 2 months later because that’s the schedule and not the balancing.

I don’t understand this argument. If the mini set weren’t in the meta, you’d be complaining about how they released a mini set with nothing useful. OF COURSE they want the new cards they design to show up at least a little. If they design a bunch of new cards and none of them make a splash, they didn’t do a good job and they need to make changes. Do you just want to complain, no matter what it is about?

It’s VERY unlikely they designed new cards for a mini-set. The mini-set is probably just part of the expansion, and the schedule says “2 months later we have to release the part we cut off”.