Wasnt the 8 Mana SPell as a joke enough for Rogue?
Why does this spell has Honorable Kill on it?
THis made it instant trash.
I have the feeling Rogue always gets extra taxed and cards needs to have some unnecessary combo or honorable or whatever on it.
The 8 mana spell is great if you build your deck properly. Nefarian’s Tooth is maybe a little underpowered, but the HK isn’t hard to line up, come on.
The 8 Mana is great? Thats why so many people play and talk about it?
Priest has a 3 mana 3 damage HK summon a 3/3 copy.
A rogue with the same mana, same damage, same stipulation to discover a spell is pretty much on par equal.
So what’s bad enough for Priest is bad enough for Rogue.
Because it’s day 2 of the expansion and no one’s really trying it.
But like, drawing 8 cards, playing like 8+ mana in minions and other deathrattle effects is amazing.
I think Deliverance is a better card, but it can’t go face, and dealing 3 for 3 is worse in priest than it is in rogue.
No, don’t is.
Cost way to much for rogue fragile survavility, so, you are forced to try everything you can to play the card faster than that, what means at very minimum x2 Preparation and x2 tradeable weapon, you need early removal because people are running Trogs and Posts in desperation against the insanely OP totally out of balance druid.
You put some deathrattles after all this and the costs are crazy high to get any value of the spell, 5 at least and 8, the 10 manas elemental is just suicidal, if you draw is dead card forever.
When you finally play the card you draw preparations, removals, weapons and 1 or 2 deathrattles, the problem is, at this time druid already drawning treasures from his deck and you can’t make any pressure and aggro already kill you.
8 manas is death territory for rogue,even the hero card is bad at 8 manas, rogue don’t have the tools to reach this stage of the game anymore, the class is dead and buried.
You even tried to use it? No? Didn’t think so. There is no way your deck should be built that a card that draws FIVE CARDS whiffs. If that’s the case your deck needs more deathrattles. Also no, you don’t run the 8 or 10 cost deathrattle cards. The 4-6 costs are good enough, the whole deck is basically a midrange tempo deck. You run broom to give your deck some proactivity, to keep board control and it works very well.
Smoke screen is a top end card that is a huge tempo swing. It doesn’t matter that it’s expensive. Even if all the card does is summon an 5/8 taunt, that makes the card worth.
Yes, since release, with costly, cheap or mixed deathrattles, just don’t work.
Quest Rogue has given the class new life. It is incredibly more efficient with the new SI card
When you play your 1/1 deathrattle in turn 5 druid is playing the dragon 8/8 and treasures, you don’t have the chance to play the 8 manas spell, the deck don’t have enough early pressure to deal with this insane meta.
After rotation? Maybe.
If you let druid just go off and do nothing but ramp maybe, but rogue can put lots of pressure on them, especially with sticky deathrattles they have trouble removing.
Also you don’t want to play the 5 cost deathrattle, you want to draw it with Smoke Screen. Which you can cheat out with Loan Shark coins too.
With 8 manas spells, 5 manas 1/1, early removals and some costly deathrattles in the mix? Good luck in your pressure with that.
Don’t get me wrong, rogue still capable of early pressure but not with this deck.
You don’t run the costly deathrattles. Don’t run costly deathrattles. The most expensive card besides smoke screen in your deck should be Legionnaire. MAYBE Owl, because Owl can do a lot of damage on an empty board. But I haven’t been sold on that.
Your big swing turn is snowfall grave → sketchy information.
I don’t know if you are playing recently, turn 3 Guff or turn 2 4 manas ramp card is rotine for druid.
Druid ramp is so insanely overbroken right now only hunter can pressure fast enough.
In this build you just don’t run the 8 manas spell.
Yes you do. Why wouldn’t you? It’s your top end/draw engine. It also combos extremely well with graveyard.
because in that build there are not enough deathrattles to consistently trigger them from the drawn effect of the 8 cost spell.
and at that point you are just paying 8 to draw 5, which is terrible for rogue.
Hey I really liked this idea. Not sure if is competitive or viable in the meta, but it sounds like fun enough for me to try!
I agree with you, this deck probably won’t work with high cost minions.
there´s some differences between the classes obviously, priest is much more fine to just remove sth turn 3 with no gain than rogue most days.
also the payoff for priest is 100% guaranteed, while rogue is utterly random - which usually should make the card cheaper as a tradeoff. Also the card barely sees play in priest.
Tooth of nefarian is just one of the worst cards printed in a while.
Yeah, no it hasn’t. Quest Rogue is still a mediocre deck that is too fair compared to the powerlevel of pretty much everything else in the meta.