Overheal is dumb to me. How can you overheal something that was at full health to begin with?
That package is pretty… complete. At least for the tempo version. There’s not a lot of room to add new stuff in terms of mana curve or mechanically. You play your overheal set up cards (location, weapon) then play a overheal pay off and trigger it and hope to go off.
The new overheal card is more of a midrange/control card that has some applications in current overheal priest builds but push them in a more midrange tempo direction, less of an aggro all-in type thing.
They add too many cards a year to do otherwise. Like it just sounds like you don’t like the set, or you think it’s improperly balanced or weak. The new priest stuff sounds jank, but isn’t uninteresting. Though it’s another card I think is one small change from being good. (Should be for “every” instead of “Every other”)
I doubt it. But again, I don’t think it needs further support to work. There’re lots of variants that already exist that can be built into different DK decks.
Whether the deck is good or not, is another matter, but net decking and top decks have literally always existed. Something’s gonna be tier 4 because that’s how %'s work. Something’s getting the biggest share of the pie.
That’s… how the mechanic works. Like that’s the whole point is to give priest some healing mechanics that work when everything is at full health.
Cant help but giggle at this - when just as recent as this month we had a discussion-thread that started with someone bringing up a post thats constantly recycled, the “timer” topic.
It didnt take long till it devolved into arguments comparing “stalling”/wasting a few minutes each game - with the us gun debate, or mentioning the us constitution.
This is a common theme on this forum, there is far too many “debate-perverts” who cant stick to the topic, or even just let the feedback team decide what is a bug or not instead of derail or argue/try to “gatekeep” with people just reporting bugs.
Then when people claim they dont listen to the forum, it becomes extra ironic with the people who gatekeep/argue in the bug report section and the like.
edit: not specific to bug-section only, i refer to forum in general, to clarify
Yeah i do agree. It’s complete … garbage.
No such thing as a package being complete, when the deck is completely unplayable. If it were truly complete it would have a playable deck, something that Overheal doesn’t have.
Cards that require more than one card to combo off of, will never be good. Especially whole archetypes build upon such thing.
Also if i’m leaving my boards livelihood to “hope”, something is very wrong with the deck.
Again, when something is super weak, even if it is interesting you can only play so much before you leave it for good. New cards should be creating a strong archetype to be consistently playable, not a memey one.
Yeah, you don’t think it needs further support, because the Plague cards are strong enough to support a whole archetype. Something that Overheal wasn’t able to. And also Automaton won’t be able to.
It seems that you are the “debate-pervert” here no?
This is a balance issue, not a design issue. Overheal is not meant to be something you build your whole deck around. It’s a shell for other archetypes. Naga, Mech, Undead, whatever.
Just adding more cards to a not working archetype isn’t the solution to a weak archetype,. The real issue, is these sorts of tempo decks don’t have the time or breathing room to set up. The game’s too fast. Miracle Rogue is having similar issues.
Like Hollow Hound is just shutting down so many board based decks. And there’s a ton of cards like that that just make any extra resources spent on playing something cool or complex pointless.
It’s the way the game used to work. You never had a guarantee that your opponent didn’t have an out.
Well we have Jade golems in current standard, which is played by Relic DH, so now joins some other jades to the battle.
I was replying to someone who brought up a point. If you think I meant people giving singular replies being the issue, you wildly misunderstood the point I was trying to make here.
My reply was related to op and what I was replying to, as its an issue that causes what I replied to, which in turn speaks of the OP. Put simply. it was regarding how “good” feedback becomes difficult to get on the forum, due to the behaviours I mentioned.
My issue was with people starting, and keeping debates unrelated to the topic going, as well as trying to outright deny OPs issue from being an issue (bug-section gatekeeping for example), the first of which you are unironically doing here by ignoring the context of my reply, so please stop.
edit: Just realised, didnt think it was true at first due to the nature of your comment, but considering you are OP as well I find this very confusing why you would try to derail your own thread instead of look at the context here.
Can we bring the ones from wild too?
Bring original jade golem, pogo hopers and ignite too because why not.
I wouldn’t mind that tbh, because jade rogue and shaman were my favorites.
Priests prefer to lose with greed than to win with tempo.
I hope priests will bring about microsoft writing down another asset (blizzard).
The end is near!! Repent, thy sinners!!
Sarcasm: A form of wit characterized by the use of such remarks.
I was just joking, no reason to get so defensive over it.
I agree with all the OP points, except that it’ll be the end of the game.
Team 5 will continue to serve up power creep diarrhea until people stop buying packs. Despite the horrid state of the game you still have the HS white knights probably with thousands invested that can’t accept the devs have stopped caring about the health of the game. This was made crystal clear when instead of utilizing the rotation to curve power creep in a responsible manner. The first real balance change was instead to buff 20+ cards in what was already the highest power level release to date.
The passion and talent of early HS devs has been replaced with cost effective and unqualified clowns that are just going through the motions to make those expansion release deadlines. Chatgpt would probably do a better job at card design at this point.
I see the creation of the Overheal package in Priest as a replacement for the old school(Broken) but tried and true Northshire on one into Power Word Shield play. They wanted to add a package that does something with healing but doesn’t give absurd draw.
Now it’s just something you play early to get maybe an extra card and some early board presence to challenge aggro. Easy to slot into any deck type.
Honestly I think Crimson Clergy, Heartbreaker and Hedanis are pretty good cards on their own. I was running them in a control variant with Herald of Light, Cannibalize and the Location and they worked pretty well.
I think vastly inferior to the thief version, but I had fun with it and it wasn’t bad.
I wasnt.
As I mentioned I was confused why you would make such a post in your own thread.
Randomly posting sarcastic comments, while at other points straight insulting people makes it very hard to keep track if you are serious or not.
As this was a discussion forum I assumed you were serious, and did not understand the point I was making, or read it too fast to notice it.
But now since you admit/clarify you were using sarcasm,
the google definition of it is “the use of irony to mock or convey contempt.”
Which goes back to the points I was making xD
And what point was that?
Everyone was staying on topic, and you showed up with your long comment that had nothing to do with the matter.
The problem is that there are some fun powerful new effects coming, but I don’t want to sit there and watch somebody play them all for zero mana on turn 5. It doesn’t really matter what they print because they already have the broken combos in place to ruin it all.
how can you not understand that this game is one of the most colossal scams in the world, very few realize it, it’s all piloted, nothing is random, rng is not random, your matchmaking is based on algorithms that calculate how much you have spent and various other parameters, you play and give money to a game that is full of bots and some even win and not a little if they have a good deck… Open your eyes