If one more person complains about Tickatus the way it is, I might lose it. Tickatus at it’s core is a mill card. The fairness of mill cards is up to an interpretation but it’s a strategy that has always, and will always exist in card games for a while. It’s existed in Yugioh through cards like Card Destruction and Morphing Jar. It’s existed in Magic through cards like Nemesis of Reason. It’s even theoretically existed in Hearthstone before through cards like Coldlight Oracle.
What’s important to note about these however, is that with the exception of yugioh’s Morphing Jar, none of these decks have really been anywhere even close to meta. Mill is never and has never been something people have considered broken in any large degree.
When you think of broken in card games, you think of Yugioh’s Tier 0 decks such as pre ban Zoodiac. You think of Magic’s Power Nine. You think of Shudderwock and depending on who you ask Pre-Nerf Jade Druid. You shouldn’t however, think of a card run in a class that is currently one of the worst in Hearthstone at the current time.
I have seen legitimate arguments that Tickatus is better then cards like Shudderwock, Zephrys, and DoL on this forum. If you actually believe that, then you have a blatant misunderstanding of how both card games and mill work.
Its funny you are mentioning Card Destruction and Morphing Jar, because both cards were quickly limited to only one copy per deck in competitive mode.
You could also argue that Tickatus is far worse than general mill, because you can play around mill decks but you cant play around Tickatus, unless you have specific tech cards for him and even then its rng if you can actually counter it. Most times it gets off though and thats 5 cards completely destroyed with a rather big body on the field. And thats only the beginning, because its possible to destroy another 10 cards.
If you compare that to the actual rogue and druid mill decks that are played in Wild, Tickatus is absolutely bonkers. Emphasis on “compare”.
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Agreed - mill should be considered a legitimate strategy. It counters control and punishes slow combos. It’s not that mill is even that strong - what it does do is have a positive effect on the meta by forcing players build faster decks.
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you can by winning with only 20 cards instead of 30.
In how many games against a non-ticketus deck you need to play 29 cards to win? Or even 25+?
Maybe only against priest; against everything else (expecially aggro), the game ends before that point.
Mill rogue is more efficient than ticketus lock:
- 3 mana murloc vs 6 mana tick
- battlecry on turn 3 vs corrupt effect on turn 8
- 2 copies vs 1 copy
- can be shuffled in the deck to avoid faigue vs tap to draw cards otherwise lock can’t play ticketus
- draw 2 cards, so you can refill your hand vs costs 6, you don’t hve much left to do in your turn
- can go back to hand while clearing the board with vanish vs can be played while clearing the opponent board with ysarjj, but you require a huge set up
- wins by fatigue vs wins because it’s a control deck
- can win before turn 9 vs usually wins after turn 10
- doesn’t need to interact with the board: just stall with evasion, cloak. vanish vs you need to clear the board and find a spot to play high cost cards to win the game (ticketus, jarazzus)
Conclusion: Mill rogue is a better mill deck than ticketus warlock.
Ticketus warlock is just a better control deck, and has probably more chance to win against an aggro deck if compared to a mill rogue.
We already had a “control meta”, where instead of “losing because the opponent played ticketus and I had -10 cards” we were “losing because the opponent had elysiana so +10 cards”.
The difference is that in the old meta, control decks used to have something like 25 removals and 5 good cards; games were boring and not interactive.
Against ticketus, both players play their game: sometimes you can lose, it’s not the end of the world 
Maybe the deck you are playing is not good against control?
It’s possible!
If your deck is good against other types of deck, you shouldn’t complain about ticketus just because it beats you.
If you lose also against other deck: then maybe is your deck fault (or your playstyle).
We are not talking about a “turn 2 i lose”, we are talking about a turn 10+ loss, and it’s not even an OTK; how can it be unfair?
(DK guldan may be unfair, but ticketus? cmon 
try to play against 2x DK guldan and then you will understand why 2x ticketus is a joke compared to it)
hmm really ? i was sure using shard generators or elek was counterplay
and using sphere of sapience to place cards for late game in the bottom of my deck and saving my card draw spells until then was playing around tickatus was a way toplay vs tickatus
I did mention CD and Morphing Jar being good. That’s due to MJ having many cards that synergize with it. Tickatus is a card that’s mainly being shoved into random Warlock decks.
And i am pretty sure that Elek is played in a wide variety of decks. If we go with every little counter then no card should ever be changed because a counter exists and every card does indeed have a counter.
To be clear here, i dont complain about Tickatus so i dont need any assumptions about how my decks are not good against it. I dont even meet Tickatus in Wild. Every Warlock is dead on Turn 4-5 against my Murloc Shaman.
I am just conversing about the topic. I never even said that Tickatus Warlock is a better Mill-deck than the others. Man, sometimes its quite frustrating to write in a forum when people dont actually understand what you are saying.
Yes, when i said you cant play around Tickatus i certainly meant that you cant win with your deck against their deck and not the obvious fact that you cant play around the summoning of Tickatus except with specific tech cards. I even wrote that in the comment. My god.
they will get what they deserve for not nerfing Tickatus and already they are bleeding subs for their own incompetence. Already the devs are leaving in droves and I do expect that Blizzard will cease to exist as company within 10 years.
Assuming this is sarcasm or satire cause no
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its a fact either you’re too blind or stupid to see it.
I think you’ve just described yourself… Blizz won’t shut down until both this game and WoW and Overwatch and Diablo and all their other games stop making them money. Until then, they aren’t going anywhere. Also, Tickatus is hardly the problem in a lot of decks; as a person who plays Face Hunter and Miracle Rogue while dabbling in Rush Warrior, Tickatus is better against Rush Warrior than either of the other two decks. If you don’t like Tickatus, go for an aggro/turbo-draw deck to kill them before Tickatus is relevant! Also, I’ll throw this in since you seem like the type of person who needs this info: you know how priest is good at controlling? Well, face and turbo-draw can deal with them easily too! Shocker, right?
Every morning, a blizzard dev wakes up, even if he couldn’t sleep at all.
They can’t sleep knowing they didn’t nerf ticketus and this fact it’s a really top priority in our world.
I heard the real reason Elon Musk wants to go to Mars it’s because there Ticketus doesn’t exist, so it may be safe to move there.
Reality: devs made some cards; the fact they are good or bad don’t influence the way they live. I am pretty sure there is NO ADULT who would leave its working position because of something irrelevant like “ticketus wasn’t nerf”.
A kid, maybe, can quit a game because “there is a rule that it’s not fair”.
An adult can’t care less about ticketus, flamewaker or whatever card exists.
They aren’t ruining life by making cards, people are ruining themselves by playing something they don’t enjoy
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I just destroyed a lock that used to Katy’s and Jeraxsus on my hunter. Locks are still beatable, so I say leave Tick alone!
I think there’s a huge difference between milling cards and straight up deleting them from your deck.
Mill rogue actually required some effort to pull it off and you could still play around it a little bit.
Tickatus is just you play one card and boom, done. It’s just not a good and healthy design for the game. Not to mention you can copy it or play again with Ysharj.
Yes there should be decks that punish slow control decks but not just by straight up deleting the cards.
WoW is losing subs due to failure of SL, there barely anything content and we are at 3M activated sub from 12M? what I expect that WoW has 1 or maybe two expansion left but sub are getting much lower and no classic TBC is going save it. and OW we have smurf accounts, throwers and leavers are all out of control and what they doing about it? NOTHING! By judging the stuff on OW2, its just the same so it mostly likely a flop. This isn’t the blizzard you once you knew its on life support.
I haven’t played the other games, but I know people who do. Those games have too much of a “legacy”, whatever is meant by that, to die so suddenly. Even still, Hearthstone makes plenty of income as of now and I doubt they’ll change it anytime soon.
hes just another one of those who keep saying blizzard will go bankrupt just because they released a card he doesnt like …
they will go bankrupt eventually and China is not going save them.
We’re all gonna die eventually, what’s your point?
china ?
ohhh you are confusing blizzard with riot games thats the one owned by tencent