The Thing That Pissed M.e O.ff M.ost A.bout H.earthstone

The Thing That Pissed Me Off Most About Hearthstone Was That They Didn’t Put The Spirit Walker In Hearthstone From WarCraft 3 With It’s Spirit Form That Only Takes Damage From Magic Attacks.

That’s Why I Created A ‘Magic’ Type Attack/Damage in My Rendition of Hearthstone To Take Over Casual or Twist as a Newer Classic Maybe (Could Be Called ‘Casual’ Still) So They Could Do Just That To Honor The Sacredness of Their Ideas They Put Into Games.

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THe thing I love about hearthstone is that I have absolutely no idea what is in Warcraft 3 as I’ve never even played it. :slight_smile:

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Some folk will tell you that Hearthstone is formed from the IP that is World Of WarCraft, and that WoW is formed from the IP that was the WarCraft RTS series. Personally I see it as WarCraft 3HearthStoneWoW. Because I encountered most of the big names thru WC3 (Jaina/Thrall/Rexxar/Keltuzad/Arthas/Lich King/etc), then encountered the smaller but still big names in Hearthstone (Rivendale/Ragnaros/King Mukla/Professor Putricide/etc) and then finally encountered all the above in WoW.

Same way that for me it was “Smells Like Nirvana” then came “Smells like Teen Spirit”, “Like a Surgeon” then “Like a Virgin”, “Fat” then “Bad”, “Eat It” then “Beat It”, “Sling Us a Song You’re the Spider Man” then “Play Us A Song You’re the Piano Man”. Etc.

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Go see God and demand a refund

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Why? I prefer it this way. Encountering the song after the Parody is a bit like going…“Someone owes Weird Al some money, they made a really lame cover of one of his hits.” Far more abundant in the 80s and 90s than recently. But its the lens I discovered all those artists thru. if it werent for Al Id never have heard of Michael Jackson until his death, or Nirvana at all, ever. About the only artist i naturally found via radio play outside of Al’s parodies was Red Hot Chili Peppers… but there is never a time I dont genuinely hear “yabba dabba yabba dabba yabba dabba doo now” in the original. Its just genuinely a better song and more understandable than the actual artist and their lyrics which might as well be “Prisencolinensinainciusol”.

It’s Warcraft 1/2/3, → to WoW AND HS.

The canon Lore is shared.

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You’re probably one of those folk that refer to A New Hope and merely Star Wars, lol. Not a lot wrong with that but not a lot right with it either. And if you really wanna get technical, you’re forgetting The Lost Vikings as prequel lore-reference material.

But I prefer the "How I Encountered the IP order. Kinda like how many old folk refer to the Star Wars movies as you watch them in 4,5,6 order and ignore everything else lol. Im not that type of terrible SW fan tho. I love it all, the good the bad the ugly the holiday special and yes, I dont hate the Disney ones either. We all got our favs and least favs but there is no set in stone way to enjoy the SW lore, same for all the WC/HS Lore. I dont knock anyone for never encountering Ragnaros outside of the being a BGs hero to pick. But knowing all the things he is a part of in the WoW lore just makes it all the more fun of a reference. Kinda like when I encountered King Mukla in BGs first. Nothing about his artwork would suggest hes anything more than a Gorilla with a title. But when I went to that island off the shore of STV and saw he took up more than my entire screen could show, lol… gave a whole new perspective to the character in BGs for me lol.

It’s literally star wars. They renamed the original poster literally. The original poster is the original movie sorry that’s the facts.

What makes me mad most about HS is the crap developers we have working in a once great IP and those who are in charge of it that should have been canned when Microsoft took over.

You are only partially correct, and only so for a very small window that allows that to even be the case. There’s more than one way to be correct when discussing Star Wars. Yes the film as originally released was just titled Star Wars, but when the Old God of the SW Universe decided it would be Ep 4 A New Hope from that point forward, that became the correct canon.

I liked the old terms when he owned the franchise when discussing Canon.

Essentially a hierarchy of layers of canon that remain canon so long as they dont directly conflict with the canon layer above it. The only layer capable of changing the highest layer of G-Canon is G-Canon. So when George made that change thats that. It would forever be that canon until he saw fit to change it again. Which is not surprising since this is the guy that gave us several variations of the Special Editions.

So for a very small window, it was Star Wars… but thats not the case anymore. And not many are going to care about an individual on a forum’s personal definition of what is or isnt Star Wars, but the fandom as a whole as well as the entire infrastructure and economy built around the SW IP has and does defer to the system i quoted above. The only major change since the system quoted was implemented was when Disney bought the IP and became capable of establishing Canon from that point forward, but even then, it is currently unknown if they can actually change the old G Canon or not as there hasnt been any examples of them attempting to do so yet.

All that to say that you cant change A New Hope back to Star Wars just because you want to only acknowledge a very small window of time where that was true. If you choose to do so, then you must also not acknowledge that Empire or Jedi or anything else was ever released.

Be consistent, or be able to change your stance on something when evidence of a reason to change said stance is presented.

There’s nothing worse to a star wars fan than another star wars fan that ignores the existence of something in star wars. Which is not what Ive done here, as I did acknowledge the sliver of time your stance would have been the correct one. I was fair about that much of your stance.

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Lucas is a hack fraud compared to to deity status his fans assign to him. He was making relatively experimental sci-fi films like THX 1138 and Star Wars was partly adjacent to that for the year it was released.

Calling it “4” to sell toys at Disneyland is not making it any less than that sorry.

That isnt why its called Ep 4 ANH… but continue to redefine your world but I aint going along with it. You are entitled to your opinion, wrong as it may be. It is your’s to have.

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My only regret is I have but one like to give.

That’s like being part of a religion; pretending there is a “true star wars”; and then personally attacking others as “nothing worse on earth to not be true star wars”. It’s the “No true Scotsman” fallacy on steroids.

I’m ashamed to assign to myself the label “star wars fan”; the only truly original film in there is the first; Lucas didn’t even Direct the 2nd and 3rd films and came after for the big bucks which explains everything.

Could you please clarify if this entire post of yours is intentionally self deprecating? Because if it isn’t, if you’re not trying to be tongue-in-cheek, then you are perhaps THE biggest source of irony I have ever seen to date, EVER. And I mean that. THE MOST ironic thing I’ve ever read, came from you, just now.

But of course, I might be mis-reading this. Are you self-aware, or are you meaning your words at face value?

EDIT: for clarity, when you say this:

you are LITERALLY DIRECTLY CONTRADICTING what you say here, above, in that same post:

You are LITERALLY saying “it’s a fallacy to claim there’s only one true star wars” and then LITERALLY saying “there’s only one true star wars.”

With a difference. I didn’t personally attack someone as “nothing worse” in the world because “they don’t get star wars”.

I just know my films; Lucas didn’t even direct the 2nd and 3rd; stop worshipping him as a deity in a church of sw.

George Lucas directed Episode 3, which was the best movie of all of 2005.

That’s not irony. Being tongue-in-cheek is almost always irony. Please refer to Season 4, Episode 18 of Futurama. Or, less preferably, a dictionary.

In case this is not a joke, I can give you hints on how to look at imdb for good movies, and some good movie reviewers.

It is not at all a joke. I mean, nothing against Lord of War, I love me some Nic Cage, but that’s second place.

The prequel trilogy was great and is still great. Only bad thing I have to say is that Jar Jar wasn’t a good character.

Sin City is easily better. The year is not the best ever, but I easily see 3 or 4 movies at least that I find better.