There win rate is actually really good Diamond threw legend.
https://imgur.com/YqPY6vs
58-60%
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Seriously just nerf the priest already. When I see a priest, I just auto quit and move onto another game. “Oh best decked go you!”
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i just checked hsreplay meta
priest has 49-48 %
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and also checked the top 10 list
priest is 7th with 48.5%
the fact that you are reporting those who dont agree with you says everything that needs to be said about this issue.
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wow didnt notice you can check games duration too!
looks like people been lying a lot about it on the forums on hsreplay shows most games under 20 min !
not even close to 40 min like many been saying
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it’s the dam playstyle that makes this class soo hated…they play nothing, they only react to ur plays, their gameplay is actually destroying urs…and top that with the rng they got these last expansions (with both discover mechanic from renew like spells and gala hero power/invoke) and we got this thing where matching into a priest is really not fun anymore…my 2cents…
Hm. At the time of writing this, the last 3 threads in community discussions and last 2 threads in Multiplayer discussions are complaints about priest.
So, Priest is absolutely fine.
So, for those of you who might not know: ŘǮƘŤ’s schtick is to pick specific decks that performs very well to judge the performance of an entire archetype. Which is a terrible thing to do, because you’re basically cherry-picking data that fits your conclusion. If you look at the HSReplay meta report* you can see how the whole archetype (Galakrond Priest, for example) performs. This approach is considerably better, as it takes into account many slightly different decks, and has a much bigger sample size than the one you get from a single deck.
And if you do that (and you had HSReplay Premium) you would see that Galakrond Priest (the best performing deck) is currently a Tier 3 deck in the Diamond through Legend bracket, with a mind-blowing 48.3% winrate. It literally loses more games than it wins.
If you don’t find the deck fun to play against, that’s a different story. But by all available metrics, Priest shouldn’t be an issue unless you can’t spend more than six minutes per match. In which case, well… thanks for the free win, I guess.
EDIT: oh man, I wrote the whole thing without even looking at his screenshot. For those who might not know HSReplay, the list says “Priest” without more description because that is Wild data. So this is unlikely to be data about the decks you complain about, unless you’ve lost a few matches to Razakus Priest recently.
*https://hsreplay.net/meta/
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The start and end of the ranked season is when you see the most aggro decks on ladder, because their short games means you can rank pretty quickly if you can pilot the decks well. It’s no surprise that you’d see more complaints about the one Control deck in the meta at times when the decks most vulnerable to it are most common.
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I’ve been seeing down with Priest complaint threads since Res Priest was introduced some years back. It’s an undying trend you might say.
so its
control
thats pretty much control
seems you are complaining about a control heavy class playing a control deck
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Stop trying to troll above your pay grade.
Honestly, these Priest complaint threads are funnier then Yogg’s Box Pyroblasting the caster in the face because of how stupid they are.
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The mirror matchups and against galakrond rogue, the matches do get up to 40 mins.
I wonder if they factor in conceding when you realize you will be playing for another 15 mins, but will lose, so it’s not worth the effort… lol
Seriously though, I haven’t looked recently , but priest DID have a decent tier 2 deck, which is still very good, because there are only two(?) tier 1 decks. Tier two consists of a lot more consistency.
I play a very slow Priest deck. My average game-time with that deck is 10.1 minutes, and that is over the course of 274 matches.
Yes, I am showing the specific decks that i am complaining about. I could be more specific and say this deck is op to play against. Please nerf it. But, I’m just saying priest is op. I’m not here to make you happy. I’m complaining about something then showing data that backs it up. Those are the decks I’m facing in ladder. Those are the decks that I’m complaining about. The way I’m going about it is accurate and fair. I’m showing data from what i’m actually complaining about.
I guess i could just says X priest deck is op. Again, i’m not here to make you happy. Please continue to manipulate what I’m saying and try to make me look bad all you want. I really DO NOT care. I’m trying to have a civil discussion here not just toss fallacy’s around.
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Are you? How do you know the decks you’re losing against and the decks you listed are the same?
Sure. Which deck is that though? Because the list you showed just says “Priest” so it’s hard for people to know what you’re talking about. At least show the cards the specific decks play.
It isn’t, though.
No, but you’re here (presumably) to have a discussion. There’s nothing that prevents that discussion from going into the details of how you obtain your data. Particularly if you claim that your conclusions are based on data.
Bad data though. You can use the same approach to demonstrate any class is OP. Mage? The winrate range for Wild Mage decks is 58-63% for the first ten results in HSReplay. Hunter? The top two decks (out of 5) have 59-60% winrates and make up two thirds(ish) of all recorded decks. Paladin? 58-70% winrate. Boy, talk about OP. Rogue? 56-60% winrates. Warrior? 60-69%.
I could go on, but I think the point is clear. If you narrow down your analysis to the top performing decks, you get a lot of very high winrates. The problem is that with small sample sizes, it’s unclear whether these high winrates are a reflection of a deck’s strength in the meta, or merely a result of factors outside a player’s control (pocket metas, lucky streaks, large skill gaps between opponents, and so on).
Again, how do you know? Do all your games go on until everyone has played all 30 cards? Because otherwise, it’s impossible to say for sure these exact decks are the ones you’re facing, compared to worse-performing decks of the same archetype. And even if they were, how can anyone else know? Your screenshot doesn’t even show which cards are in these decks? If the specific decks are so important, why hide them?
Dunno about fair, but it doesn’t seem accurate. It seems like you’re making a lot of assumptions about your opponent’s decks. If you do have more data than you’re showing, then why hide it? You can’t claim that your arguments are backed by data and then get defensive when people point out the issues with your data, not if you’re trying to have an honest discussion.
At this point, I’ll happily admit my post was snarkier and meaner than it had to be. And I apologize for that. It does not change the fact that the way you pick your data has issues, issues you consistently dismiss without providing a good explanation for. If you want to make arguments based on data, then you should expect those data to be scrutinized.
You could, but then any X deck for any class is OP. If all decks are OP, then no deck is OP, to paraphrase Syndrome.
I’m not manipulating anything. I’m pointing out how your use of data is flawed. As you say, I’m not here to make you happy.
The bold caps do get that point across, indeed.
Are you, in fact, trying to have a civil discussion? Because there seems to be a lot of dismissing of people and name-calling coming from your end in this thread. I’m not sure that telling people you’re reporting them for trolling is how you get civil discussion going.
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All of you “data” searchers make me laugh…
The ONLY one that has the REAL data is Blizz and they dont share it with us.
Why? coz it will prolly verify many claims we have for years. otherwise - I dont really see any reason why not share all the meta-data about HS.
I know from own XP that I see priests more than every other class. I too autoconcede to them most of the times. Unless I play my murlocs deck and then I am sooo soooooo happy to get them. its insta-quit after the first devolve 
MUhahahahahah
I call everyone that have lost to a priest - switch over to a shaman deck. It has like 3types of polymorph and if you play Hagatha you have a small chance to get more. Shamans of the world - UNITE!
More of that civil discussion you mentioned early, I see.
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