So just to recap;
I showed how mage winrate from plat-legend is 60% according to empirical data, you took a screenshot of only 200 legend games and listened to a podcast, neither of which showed a 50% winrate for mage in plat-legend
I’d still invite you to show or give a source of this tier 3 or 50% winrate in plat-legend, I’m open to being proven wrong, you just haven’t provided anything
I did post a link which again, you choose to ignore. I tried giving you the benefit of the doubt as I’ve seen people get confused by HRS, especially the non-paid version, but now I think you are being nefarious. Quest mage is a bad deck that is easily taken down. You can even search these boards for many threads about how easy this deck is to counter if you are truly getting beat by it this often. It’s not some deck of lunacy clown-fiesta, it’s entirely predictable and linear and has several weaknesses.
k since you had so many posts/ chances you to show that source and you didnt
this means it never existed
You know what would be cool, is a mini game for this forum where you can click on the image/text of someone replying to a thread and if they’re typing the same thing they already typed 20 times, it resets their unfinished reply.
Again let’s just recap the events so everyone understands why you’re peacing out;
-You said I made up my claims
-I stated my sources [metastats/hsreplay] as I have done all along
-you still said it was made up
-I said you’re still welcome to prove otherwise
-you didn’t
For anyone just chiming in, here are the stats gathered specifically from today for quest mage from plat-legend;
Metastats; 58.9%
Hsreplay; 60.9%
Metadecks; 58.0%
Boreas disagrees but can’t show anything to state otherwise and says these sources don’t exist - you decide
https://m.imgur.com/bkGkzoR
But you said it was 78%. I’m looking at the numbers YOU just posted. And none of them look like 78%.
Then you said it was 72%. I’m looking at the numbers YOU just posted. And none of them look like 72%.
They look like 58.9%, 60.9%, and 58.0%.
Your claim was grossly exaggerated and your credibility is diminished.
And everything I’ve said is backed up with sources, mage does have 78% winrate since the start of the expansion, you can check this yourself on metastats with over 5k games recorded. If you select data for just today mage has 58.9%. This was clearly stated but seems to have gone over your head, maybe accidentally or maybe not
Do you have anything to prove otherwise from these sources? I didn’t exaggerate a thing thanks, if you think I did then that’s for you to prove
When you look at just today
https://m.imgur.com/bkGkzoR
First, that’s not what you said.
Second, it’s a meta; what’s relevant is how it’s doing NOW.
Third, this stat is far more relevant to Mage’s performance.
Fourth, you are a poor debater and I’m done with this discussion.
Have a nice day.
So the answer to whether or not you have anything to prove that I’m exaggerating would be no.
You have a nice day too - don’t say I’m exaggerating when I’m stating clearly laid out data in future, particularly when you have none of your own
https://m.imgur.com/bkGkzoR
A image and 20 characters.
It got real quiet in this thread
So there’s been a giant shift here and I think there is a very specific number he’s looking for. Seems he is saying since the expansion dropped the rate from platinum plus is 78%.
I know we are only looking at recent numbers as the meta has shifted against questmage and other decks, but the onus is still on him to show us these amazing numbers that literally no one but him has seen.
So I need you link this. I also said bad words and can’t post links BUT there’s a button on the bar that looks like this: </>
If you paste your link, then highlight the link, then press </> all of us will be able to see your link or screen shot. Here is an example to show proof of concept.
https://hsreplay.net/meta/?hl=en
Here’s a graph to show you why the numbers you are bringing aren’t actually relevant. It shows win rate over time in quest mage.
https://hsreplay.net/archetypes/142/quest-mage#tab=overtime
Ok so so far you’ve been asked for some proof that the winrate for mage is 50% at plat-legend and you’ve shown one screenshot of legend and one screenshot of bronze-gold which actually today has quest mage at over 60% winrate. Is there a reason you’re specifically avoiding that?
Nobody cares about numbers 40 pages later. please move on. But anyways yeah, the falling win rate of quest mage followed by the discovery of Robes of Protection as tech shows why tech cards are incredibly healthy for unbalanced metas. Now all we need is some kind of op quest protection and a way for control to have a tech card to obtain the mythical ‘live to play a 8 mana card’ condition i could die for again.
You know what Selwynn, a genuine thank you, here’s the info you asked for and didn’t go find yourself;
Mage winrate since patch [climbed to over 80%, was 78%];
https://imgur.com/2WqbR0S
Mage winrate adjusted for recent [climbed to 65%];
https://imgur.com/aVx1Sbd
Hsreplay [when you don’t only select data to match what you say] confirms this, 59% winrate;
https://imgur.com/lZxfJLr
Let’s look at Mages overall winrate from hsreplay for this expansion [premium, as I inform myself before I open my mouth]
https://imgur.com/lZxfJLr
59% my goodness, only one negative matchup
So let’s just confirm the facts so we’re all on the same page and you’re not confused.
-There has been no made up information from me, everything I have said has been backed up with sources.
-You/moonchilde/Boreas who had access to the same info but didn’t want to read it have so far given no sources to say this is false but just want to ride your deck out of your rank
-Anyone who has been asked to show mage having a 50% or ‘tier 3’ in their words in plat-legend has failed to do so, repeatedly
-Moonchilde has said numbers are inflated with no evidence given
-Izizero is still posting info from bronze trying to show mage is fine, it’s not
I’ll say it again loud and clear as there’s misinformation being spread; at no rank is mage anywhere near a 50% winrate or ‘tier 3’. Mage winrate since the start of expansion has been, and still is, absurd.
And I’m quite confident most of the people who ‘couldnt find this’ themselves are the ones like yourself who want this meta to stay purely because it suits/carries you
Please. Please tell me you’re not making enormous texts about picking numbers when your sources are a single site saying your 70+% numbers and then HSreplay. In Gold.
You know there’s Gold clearly selected in the sidebar, right? You know people have been telling you this whole thread Gold info is unreliable, right? People aren’t Just looking at legend for a narrative, good god.
People, smh
No there’s multiple sources with various stat ranges since people have tried to pick apart anything I’ve said without any proof, you can read this yourself and have had that ability from the start. If you disagree you need proof, which you have done from the start and still have yet to do