Its incredible how many terrible plays they can make and still win because Renethal is just dumb.
I wish this card was never added in Standard ever again. It makes it a miserable experience everytime its added
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They have more health and that’s helpful, but they also have worse cards. That’s because all cards in the game are better or worse than the average card of the game; the more you add cards the worse the average card of a deck becomes (e.g. the literal Renathal card is bad); did you catch a Dev saying “it’s good to thin your deck”?
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Yes, I believed the same… but they seems too effective for me… even with Reno… madness… I wondered when seen Renethal back in standard how much will it take to see him in Highlander from… but then persuaded myself they won’t work well… 40 different cards in a deck? Just nonsense… there is no way the proper cards will be at hand in time… but I think I was wrong… There are just too many OP cards in the game so they can hold on too easily until it gets into hand. I started to use Alextrasza against them. Reducing their health from 40+ to 15 seemed to the best choice. However mostly it is not so useful for 9 mana… still we need to build our illusions on something… 
I managed to kill a few already.
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It doesn’t matter that it dilutes the deck because that’s not how the deck wins. It wins by having more options, more tech cards, and simply outlasts anything else out there. If you don’t kill it in the first five turns, you’re wasting your time
That is just crap game design. A deck’s win condition should never be “I’m forcing my opponent to concede out of sheer boredom”
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which deck? depednoing on the deck it can be better to not run renathal
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This is false. 40 Michael Jordans is just as good as 30 Michael Jordans even though only 5 Michael Jordans can be played at a given time. You would be right if Renathal made it so that instead of 30 Michael Jordans you got 30 Michael Jordans + 10 Brian Scalabrine. But it’s actually just 30 Michael Jordans vs 40 Michael Jordans.
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Well I stalled out at Plat 10 for the last 2 weeks with my BSM deck and havent been able to get to plat 9 the whole time. I added it and was able to throw in a bunch of other good things like the minion that can allow me to have 11 mana and 11 handsize, the Khadgar that casts spells for me at the end of my turn, and a handful of other cards that either improved my ability to deal with their board better than just the aoe spells and the big ones. just little things like the guy that gives me armor based of spell costs i play, or the 2 cost legendary that discovers over and over, the minion that deathrattles an extra copy of my highest cost spell in my hand, the panda lady that bounces a minion back to my hand and buffs it, so I can use her on the 4 cost worgen that repeats the last non rogue class card i played so I can keep spamming them big spells lol.
Currently at plat 9 and 1 win away from plat 8 since the change.
So I call it an absolute win Professor Hulk meme here for me.
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“I play decks if I don’t win by turn 4 my brain shuts down”
Fixed the title for you.
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Jokes on you, my brain shuts down on turn 1
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That’s just a false analogy. You imply all 30 cards have the same power as all 40 cards.
All cards in the game are better or worse than others and 10 more are just worse.
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Actually it isn’t, I even showed how/why if you bothered to quote the rest of what I wrote.
You would be correct about 8 years ago when there were only so many good cards in the game. Unfortunately for you, we’re 8 years past that point. In current Hearthstone any given class has 100+ Michael Jordans to choose from at any time.
Right, they are as worse as 10 more Michael Jordans is worse for a basketball team.
What do you mean I’m correct 8 years ago: I’m correct now.
I’ll tell you what: list here 40 cards,
tell us those 40 are equal power.
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No, you aren’t, no matter how much you say you are. I want to jump like Michael Jordan but no matter how much I say it and want it doesn’t make it true. Eventually you will have to accept reality. Ideally sooner than later/never.
That’s quite the poisoned pill you present, I applaud you. Not only is that a lot of work seeing as there are so many good cards (how many cards are in Hearthstone, anyway? Even divided by 2 to get rid of the bad cards, is still a massive number); but I also already know whatever cards I pick you will find some issue with them because you have a limited scope/mind and really really want to be right when you’re not. I understand, and it’s okay. I forgive you.
Here I’ll present my own poison to you. You find 40 of the best cards and tell us how 10 of those cards aren’t good enough to be used. Then I can tell you how wrong you are as you struggle to come up with reasons that certain cards aren’t worthy of making the cut. Cmon you have the time, don’t you? Sift through Hearthstones entire collection and come up with 40 of the best cards per class. Analyze all of them. You enjoy wasting time rather than admitting you’re wrong, right?
If you think the card is so good, you should play it yourself
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Nice strawman. I didn’t call the cards bad. I called them worse than the best 30.
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It isn’t a strawman you’re just being petty to avoid taking my reverse poison pill you tried to get me to take, I applaud your ability to stick your head in the sand and avoid facing the fact that you are wrong.
You poisoned nothing. You essentially say all 40 cards of a deck are equally powerful.
Why do you think Renathal has +10 Health to the Hero?
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They are. It could be a 60 card deck they’d all be equally powerful. You’d have to go 100+ cards before the card quality dips and it becomes a downside.
Because it’s a no downside/only upside card. Why do you think any Wild deck worth its salt runs Renathal? Don’t worry, I already know you’ll find some exception, but that only proves that Isaiah Thomas and the Pistons can beat Michael Jordan, which is both fine and normal and expected. Michael Jordan can only do so much even if there are 30 or 40 of him on a team.
I give up on this due to lack of time. “60 cards in a deck are equal at an individual level to 30 cards” is too basic of an error and acting arrogantly on top shows lack of willingness to improve.
I could talk about special cases like milling decks but we’re not at that level yet.
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Maybe if we explain it as, more cards, less chance to draw the one you need. Less cards, higher concentration of power. Different play styles is all.
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