Raylla is garbage

That’s about the reaction we got from Sif Mage. It’s like they forgot how to make Mage cards that are not over the top or just plain unplayable. Maybe they just don’t understand how the Mage player plays the game?

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It was just buffed yesterday it cant be so lmao

Paladin is meme tier or so people keep telling me…

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The thing annoying me is that I seem to be able to build BSM to either deal with crazy aggro (lifeguard into star power is a hell of a play) OR the decks that like to do larger mid game plays which require a good deal more greed and tempo.

Both at the same time has eluded me.

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They are not spot on. You play garbage wild where everything is ultra fast. Nobody plays wild, Nobody cares about wild. The format is not balanced nor it ever will be. So complaining about a card in wild does not make any sense. She’s quite ok in standard especially on curve.

The Devs are a bit responsible that Wild is taken too seriously by some. E.g. why does it give the same rewards as Standard? Give them Wild packs; it’s both fair and a nerf; it will help put Wild where it should be: a niche that should not be played by new players who don’t get the Formats yet.

Nobody YOU care about, cares about wild.

The person you quoted, is somebody by technical definition.

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yeah the buff did absolutely nothing, i fully expectes her to go to 3 or at least get some actually decent stats, kinda wild

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The problem isn’t Raylla. It’s that mage doesn’t have a coherent small spell package other than Raylla. She would need to be individually game winning in order to really make that shine.

She works best in rainbow mage because they can at least discover a bunch of small stuff, but she isn’t really a stand alone win con. She is more of a value bomb and you hope the opponent doesn’t have a brawl, aftershocks, etc.

The card isn’t bad, mage just is a bit disjoined at the moment with their packages all going in pretty extreme different directions of each other.

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yeah i get this but i think shes too easy to deal with even if she does get some stuff on the board, at least for most of the meta players rn

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After the horror stricken reactions at large to the announcement of the card buff you expected Blizzard to do a proper buff to the card???

People were so afraid of the buff that for i moment i thought we were getting a buff for a charge card.

The vanilla buff we got served to bring tranquility to those poor souls forever haunted by nightmares of Mage at the top of the meta.

honestly i was pretty underwhelmed by the buffs overall which kinda sucks cuz they couldve really shook up the meta

i mean its not like mage is unplayable but what is playable is just elementals and the occasional spell/big spell decks

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Unplayable no , but i can make a case that right now its the worst class in the meta( not thats anything new for Mage).
The buffs did do something just not for Mage thats business as usual.

Any shred of common sense cries out for you to dump this class and never look back, but Mage players never dealt in that.

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I don’t know how this is any different than what mage has had to manage with now for years.
I have been talking about this repeatedly, for at least four years or longer.
Mage doesn’t get ongoing support for it’s decks. Instead; they get abandoned, and the class gets made over, every single card release.
I find it hard to believe no one other than me hasn’t seen it.
What I expect will happen is BSM will get maybe one/two cards in the mini set, and then it will be abandoned for something else in the next release. Rinse and repeat.

I would gladly play Standard, if mage were ever allowed anything actually competitive in a style that I can play well, and enjoy. It has been years since both were true.

Honestly, the last time I seriously played mage was back when Exodia was a thing.

I mean, I’ve used elemental mage recently, but that’s not “mage” so much as it is “tribal with minimal spell support.” I know you guys used to have that “spells only” deck, but I haven’t seen that recently. Nowadays when I see mages, they’re either still on elemental tribal, or they’re trying that “I’m going to win on turn 10 by recasting eleventy billion spells” gambit. (which works more often than it probably should, tbh - it doesn’t seem like that one would fly well against people who aren’t as greedy as I am)

yeah. the class used to have spell damage, tempo, secrets, burn, and stall via freeze. Then team 5 made two new classes when there was zero space for them, and ripped mage apart in order to do it.

Oh god, the PTSD from that, man. I mean, hunter secrets were always just kinda silly. Mage secrets, though - I remember when teching against secrets was mandatory.

Though, in all fairness, I also remember when teching in general was mandatory. About the closest we have to that which sees regular use these days, would be ETC and that tradeable weapon destruct viper. Times have changed.

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These days Hunter does secrets way better than mage.
In Wild they can play them for free passively, and in concert with quest that allows them to have free HP that can target anything.
Secrets were good in Wild, until Lackey was killed. Now they aren’t anywhere near as good as Hunter.
Mage has no really fast deck anymore that I know of.

What? Recent years have seen mage with tons of stuff that took over the meta and had to be nerfed because of it…

Skeles, Sif, Questline, Incanters Flow decks, Nagas…

The main reason mage keeps being “bad” is that all of that stuff created OTKs that couldn’t be left at the power levels they were at.

It’s been a more recent thing where mage packages just aren’t really landing.

Mmm, I’d still consider elementals to be fast. I know, technically not a mage thing. But it’s certainly not a SLOW deck type.

I disagree. I think each release has been a complete departure from the previous set for quite some time.
Last expansion was no minion, and now we have big spell. Before that was Elemental, wasn’t it?
They have nothing to do with another, and so the class doesn’t have the same synergy as other classes enjoy.