Pls delete Snowfall Guardian

This card should never have exited

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Perhaps adapt?
Don’t fill your board against Freeze Shaman?

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There’s plenty of more dangerous critters out there than Snowfall Guardian.

Agree that a whole board freeze that also develops your board is very annoying and could easily become a nerf target (again). Probably not there yet, tho.

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I myself hate the card because it is a better version of Frost Nova, which was taken from mage.
In fact; the entire playstyle of the deck was taken from mage, and handed to Shammy without a word from anyone here, some of whom I clearly recall crying about how uninteractive the freeze mage deck was.

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Wildpaw Cavern is actually a really strong card that gives you 3/4 Freeze for up to 3 turns.

Suggestions on “how to adapt” when the shaman can freeze your board for 4 turns and kill you with burn in that window? Guardian should either be removed all together or freeze a maximum of 2 minions.

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Clarification:
“How to adapt”
You guys know what Freeze Shaman looks like by now, I hope.
Adapt: Have a plan, expect the inevitable freeze. Follow up with a reaction play/counter.

They can only freeze you 4 times in a row if they have the four cards in hand at the time. If they got lucky, it is what it is. If you’ve delayed the game enough to get to that point, well, you get what you give.

“only” 4 times when most games end at around turn 8-10 is alot

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And if you would have read the rest of that sentence you’d realize I was making a point that they can not freeze four times without the 4/30 cards.

Means you got either really unlucky or delayed the game to give them that hand.

Why I had to explain this in detail when it was already written, IDK.

It’s not like that is the only freeze/stall they have access to. The original Garrote Rogue everyone hated is a joke compared to burn shaman stall and everyone seems to be totally fine with it.

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It should be nerfed to “freeze 5 random minions, gain +1/+1 for each minion frozen”. That way at least you can play around it by having a full board, and it keeps the classic 8/8 stats.

Pickings for any other control deck. Freeze shaman has never given me any trouble with priest or warrior.

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A certain style of play doesn’t have to be constrained to one class, and there is nothing to say that Mage won’t get a similar style of deck again in the future. And freeze Mage was much more uninteractive because of how much Mage can randomly generate cards, who doesn’t remember the horror days of 4 or 5 iceblocks. Shamans ability to generate random cards is a lot more limited, plus the deck won’t be around forever.

LOL I mean that’s the problem. Snowfall guardian by itself isn’t so bad.

In my opinion the real culprit are the parrots…

We can certainly expect round after freezing boards from these reprobates that play freeze Shaman. It’s such a crappy deck that I don’t see it as a problem though. It’s annoying for board based decks for sure.
I ask myself what type of player would actually play freeze Shaman and enjoy it? Not the type of player that likes the game imo. Its like that deck that a 12 year old plays because they like to try to annoy and emote people. Lol

I’d settle for getting rid of the macaw.

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It still smacks of hypocrisy, and a clear lack of imagination from Team 5.

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you set up some rules for what you think mage should be and other classes shouldnt have

and call them hypocrites for not following them…

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Mal, you didn’t see the patch notes?
Patch 22.4575475

Mages with freeze mechanics are too powerful. Ice Lance was too powerful.
So we’ll remove that power level from mage and toss it over to shaman to balance things out!

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