Clown priest did not reach the prominence necessary to justify this change to N’Zoth to be considered a nerf. This, for the most part, is a buff to the card. We will not get refunds.
Why would you want to dust N’Zoth anyway? The card’s awesome.
NEW BLZ ELUC POLICY
from this day forward all nerfs will be called buffs.
No refund for you!!
get out!
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I’m mostly free to play and the only legendaries I’ve ever crafted were N’Zoth and Y’Shaarj. I have very little dust to make decks with and since they made my favorite N’Zoth deck kinda terrible I’d like to use the dust to craft a Kazakus instead.
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Its a buff, demon hunter get to attack with illidari inquisitor same turn that its played.
They did actually say it in the patch notes. Also since its technically a buff due to the mana reduction they just dont have to give a dust refund and at the end of the day that helps them increase revenue.
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It’s kind of interesting because you could definitely make a case that First day of school was buffed, but Blizzard gave a full refund for that one. So whether or not a card has been buffed or not often comes down to one’s perspective on the card.
Hey i just saw that your thread got censor by a mod. 1st of all they are so many threads that needed some kind of censor and never get it that I find it ridiculous that yours in particular got mod intervened… this goes to show the extend of how the circle tightens on something that does not require mod attention by some “weird” reasoning even though it might have infringe some kind of regulation… We are cleared that Blizz does not want unwanted ATTENTION.
And last but not least pls Blizz censor all the threads that use the word blizzard on the title on the multiplayer section… good luck with that.
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Whether there will be additional archetype that will run N’Zoth after the mana reduction remains to be seen after the meta settles. I doubt that, as Demon Hunter would rather Taelan to consistently pull Illadari Inquisitor, than to run N’Zoth for additional Inquisitor. But the fact is, before the patch, most people who run N’Zoth Also run Clown, and now the card is significantly worse in their decks. I am sure Blizzard has this data.
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Honestly at this point I don’t really care whether Blizzard will give full refund for this card. I got N’Zoth from packs, and crafted other cards for my deck. I just think this card change is very bad for the game. Most other nerfs dialled back their power level at their current deck, without significantly changing their function in the deck. For exceptions like Tortollan, the community has been expecting a nerf to the archetype. N’Zoth change is bad for multiple reasons: It has not been expected, it changes the card’s function in a deck, it is bad in flavour (old gods are all 10 mana), it has no explanation given for the change, etc.
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They put a new tribe, quilboard, and the only Card that buff this is nzot that can reborn 1 je
No one in the world ask for that change. I seriously wondered why they did it. I dont have clown deck nor that card, but just cheezed on behalf of those who have the deck/card that Blizz dont seem to think through their decisions nor explain them properly.
I lose when the clowns come out and i have no way to deal with it, but at least it’s another archetype that makes priest less annoying to play against.
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I’m sure the reason they changed it was because they wanted to make more slow control archetypes viable. Their reasoning was very likely that if they buffed N’Zoth we might start seeing menagerie decks for more classes being viable. They also added in a new tribe which also helps since you have more options for minions for N’Zoth to bring back.
The only problem is that the corrupt mechanic is so sensitive to the cost of the cards that you’re playing that changing the cost of one card has repercussions on other cards too.
I think I should say that I don’t really think the card has been nerfed overall. I think it’s a mixed change, it’s better in some ways and worse in others. The only problem from my perspective is that the change makes the card much worse for what was it’s main purpose for me.
I specifically crafted this card to use to corrupt clowns and now they changed it so that it can’t do that anymore. The reason Blizzard gives refunds when they nerf cards is so that you can feel assured that when you buy or craft cards that the cards you get won’t be changed in a way that makes them worse without them giving you the chance to trade in the card for one that is better. I’m not asking for them to revert the change I just think they ought to give a full refund for it. That’s all.
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I get it, but there are lots of other cards to buff to enable slower decks, like Plaguemaw, which needs to be properly set up and have other taunts in place before casting. Also, as long as OTK exists, I dont think slow decks are viable (unless OTK decks are rarely played).
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Yes, I agree with you that this was the wrong change to make. I was just trying to explain what I think their reasoning was.
As for plaguemaw, I think they probably wanted to buff a neutral specifically since it would affect more classes and possibly more archetypes.
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One possible reason not to buff cards from Barrens is that we haven’t seen the miniset yet. It’s entirely possible that contains cards that help support decks that run Plaguemaw or Tavish, much like the Darkmoon miniset had cards like Xanesh and Imprisoned Phoenix which helped DMF archetypes.
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Yes I hope that’s the case!
This is the reason why a dust refund should be offered on every card thats been changed. You craft one card. And when its changed, for either “better” or worse, its not the same card you crafted. Ergo, you should be offered a dust refund no matter what.
What constitutes as a buff, is highly subjective. When it comes to mana cost changes. When there is mechanics like corrupt in the game, or cards like Greymane or Mooneater.
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I would of preferred N’zoth 10 mana and a coin to your hand instead of 9 mana. If the reduced cost was aimed at broomstick
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Or just make the resurrected minions have rush. It’s not that big a buff.
Good god, Blizzard. I think you just drew all the attention to this thread you didn’t want this post getting in the first place. 
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