You think that if Sony loses the Spider Man rights it means Marvel can now reprint and sell the old Sony Spider Man movies?
Do you not understand that there’s different types of contracts? The license comes from Blizzard, not Upper Deck. So it couldn’t give them the right to print older cards if Upper Deck had the rights to them.
You can’t reissue old content if someone else has rights to that content.
No idea about the other stuff, but wotc published the d20 system under the free gaming license, so it’s basically free for everyone to use.
you’re intentioanlly being obtuse? Yes. See previous comments about LICENSING AGGERMENTS! As I said:
------------------------>if it’s in the terms of the contract.<-------------------------------
I made sure to add it a third time, in case you missed it.
Not quite:
Open Game Content (or OGC)
…the game mechanic and includes the methods, procedures, processes and routines to the extent such content does not embody the Product Identity and is an enhancement over the prior art and any additional content clearly identified as Open Game Content by the Contributor, and means any work covered by this License, including translations and derivative works under copyright law, but specifically excludes Product Identity…
Product Identity (or PI)
…product and product line names, logos and identifying marks including trade dress; artifacts; creatures characters; stories, storylines, plots, thematic elements, dialogue, incidents, language, artwork, symbols, designs, depictions, likenesses, formats, poses, concepts, themes and graphic, photographic and other visual or audio representations; names and descriptions of characters, spells, enchantments, personalities, teams, personas, likenesses and special abilities; places, locations, environments, creatures, equipment, magical or supernatural abilities or effects, logos, symbols, or graphic designs; and any other trademark or registered trademark…
Use of another company’s Product Identity is considered breach of the licensing agreement.
A good summary is on wiki. But the short is: so long as it’s not IP. The wotc propriety stuff is theirs, and actiblizz’s is theirs. No ne loses their stuff because they do business with another company. Like proprietary game mechanics.
If I make a contract with you to sell my special beef Hot Dogs with your name on them. I can sell them (without your name) in any other capacity as long as I don’t give you exclusivity rights. But you can never make a contract with someone else to sell my special beef hot dogs with your name on them.
If you commission me to design and manufacture special beef hot dogs with your name on them; I can’t sell the special beef hot dogs in any other capacity, even without your name. You can sell them yourself, or get anyone else to sell them for you; because they belong to you even if I created them.
Different types of contracts, different types of rights for the creator. All of which end up being called licenses.
You can change hot dogs and names both for game mechanics, characters, systems, etc. It doesn’t matter which one belongs to whom or created by the other.
Of course the propriety stuff is theirs and nobody else have rights in it. I published some tpg stuff years ago, based on the d20 system, had some lengthy talks with wotc, I know how it works But you explicitly talked about the d20 system, not dungeons & dragons or another ip I just wanted to point out that this example is not really practicable because of ogl.
Please, do tell which physical card game has the same effect as Discover.
Hey now don’t badmouth the original trading card game. I got my Imp In A Ball out of one of those packs 
Congrats. I literally posted the same. exact. thing. THREE TIMES!
The sound everyone heard was facepalming so hard it opened a portal to another universe.
So, IP isn’t IP…better not sell stories about Maina the ice mage, with her orx buddy the frahh, from the city of orxrinnar. Because you will definitely have an army of lawyers from actiblizz suing you for copyright.
Which is what I said. What you can publish under OGL is extremely limited, not open season to publish whatever as you originally claimed.
You mean, “Find X card, reshuffle?” Nope, totally new thing. I mean could you image shuffling a deck BY HAND?! Next people will think there weren’t pictures on cards before digital card games.
A universe where Upper Deck had rights to the art, names, and mechanics to the game they created?
So it stopped circulating on 2010 and Hearthstone was never created.
Let’s take “things only you are saying for 500, Alex.”
Because in this universe, it belongs to Blizzard. So they couldn’t have stolen it.
Ah, so that whole thing where dc/marvel ripped each other off for decades didn’t happen either.
Because companies are virtuous and NEVER do anything like that:
Uh oh, better talk to this guy!
That guy never said anything about theft.
When you “base” something off of work that someone else did…what’s that called? Come on, it’s not that hard.
Standing in the footsteps of Giants.
Which is another word for saying you stole it. Like copying off of someone’s test.
If the whole world had that mentality, we would still have to individually invent fire every single person.
Humanity would have never even achieved the Bronze Age.
The issue is when you don’t credit and/or seek permission from the owner of the rights of a particular creation and claim it as your own. Otherwise Criptozioc (who you curiously are not also calling thieves, almost like you have a bias for this double standard) would have been served a cease and desist when trying to reprint cards previously created by Upper Deck.
"Hey, I’ll just ignore that comment about contracts…AGAIN! Even though I posted “different contracts myself…h’yuck!”
MAXIMUM IRONY!
“Stealing is ok.”
I pity your neighbors, coworkers, and anyone you went to school with. Because that rationale has been used to deny people getting paid for their work, let people steal from others in a class setting who should have had to do their own work, and let other take credit for hard work that someone actually put in.
And you equate scummy business practice with “advancement of humanity” something scummy mega corps use all the time to justify their unethical (and often illegal) practices.
“For the greater good, brah.”
Who was the contact with? The Cryptozoic contract?
Are you saying they had a contract with Upper Deck?
They didn’t.
That you are intentionally being obtuse.