Yeah… quite frankly even if it did work it wouldn’t be that strong.
Nevermind the amount of set up it takes… but why do you want four copies of the card when you only have seven spaces on the board.
I’ll say it again, people are vastly overestimating this card.
It surely does not, Ruin was used, before the summoned KT appeared.
This combo is in practice irrelevant, KT will not survive one turn, even with powershield und who runs that?
Depends of the cards that will apprear in the next months/year. Even if it currently isn’t broken (it isn’t) that doesn’t mean it has no potential to do so.
Spellburst is the NEXT spell you cast. In your hypothetical, PW:S eats the Spellburst.
Yes, I accounted for that. The question is about spellburst when a spell was casted prior to a rebirth via the reborn ability or from a resummon.
What sane person doesn’t?
In your initial you didn’t account for it at all…
Play KT, cast PW:S was literally your hypothetical turn 5. Thatcher the chain ends.
If Psyche Split is used on an already used KT, the copy will not have the effect. If Shadowstep is used on a used KT, when played it will have its Spellburst.
Why wouldn’t the copy have the effect? The copy is treated as a new minion. The text is always refreshed as active for a reborn, resummoned, or copied minion.
For the same reason when you copy Tirion, who has lost divine shield, with faceless manipulator and it doesn’t have DS… It’s an exact copy of the minion on board!
Reborn etc. Drop all buffs when rezzed as well.
I am talking about the copies that are resummoned, though, from [Grave Rune].
What do you mean? Kids are bursting with joy.
Yes, as a rez effect, they will. But not copies from Psyche Split etc.
You are all over the place tbh.
Rezzed, copied to hand and shuffled to deck will all have the effect.
Copied minions won’t, assuming the Spellburst has already been used.
Deck > hand > board > graveyard. When moving backwards through the zones, a baseline minion is added unless explicitly stated otherwise.
Those copies are summoned after Shadow Word: Ruin is cast, and therefore Ruin can’t trigger their Spellburst effect.
I’m sure you could do some fancy combo with a 5 mana 4 aoe deal 5 kaza potion but turns after 6 don’t exist in wild as long as quest mage exist, so… Maybe this plus shadow word death or shadow word ruin or a scheme could be good. This plus defile could be neat as well.
Defile is not gonna work. A death check is done after each kill, so more often than not, you might get 1 or 2 meh minions. Only the first cast counts.
How can you be certain? [Kael’thas Sunstrider] counts the number of spells cast while it is in hand. Does [Archmage Vargath] cast a spell played that turn when it resummons? I think it does. Why wouldn’t K’T? I just wrote a thread about inconsistencies. This might apply.
It’s an aura effect. He needs to be on the board when the spell is cast. And your thread is wrong btw.
With unstable felbolt you can resummon even one of your minions (not reliable enough, but it’s a possibility)
Both Kael’thas and Vargoth consider the spells played “this turn” (as written on them). Spellburst is “the next spell you cast”.
He’ll survive Elemental Destruction… Could be done very early with coin and/or Lightning Bloom.