It is in the change log…
I no longer can use the cards in the ODD/EVEN decks I have built.
Card Changes
The terrible tinkerer Blastmaster Boom has been busy in the lab and has cooked up some buffs to cards from every class! For more details on these changes, including developer insights, check out the Rise of the Mech announcement blog here.
Druid
Gloopsprayer to (7) Mana. (Down from 8)
Mulchmuncher to (9) Mana. (Down from 10)
Hunter
Necromechanic to (4) Mana. (Down from 5)
Flark’s Boom-Zooka to (7) Mana. (Down from 8)
Mage
Unexpected Results to (3) Mana. (Down from 4)
Luna’s Pocket Galaxy to (5) Mana. (Down from 7)
Paladin
Crystology to (1) Mana. (Down from 2)
Glowstone Technician to (5) Mana. (Down from 6)
Priest
Extra Arms to (2) Mana. (Down from 3)
Cloning Device to (1) Mana. (Down from 2)
Rogue
Pogo-Hopper to (1) Mana. (Down from 2)
Violet Haze to (2) Mana. (Down from 3)
Shaman
The Storm Bringer to (6) Mana. (Down from 7)
Thunderhead to 3/6 (Up from 3/5)
Warlock
Spirit Bomb to (1) Mana. (Down from 2)
Dr. Morrigan to (6) Mana. (Down from 8)
Warrior
Security Rover to 2/6 stats. (Up from 2/5)
Beryllium Nullifier to 4/8 stats. (Up from 3/8)
I will say the reasoning behind wanting a refund is sound. If you use those cards in a wild odd or even deck your decks just got destroyed or at the very least nerfed. There would be no harm in allowing the changed cards to have a full dust refund. I’ve heard a lot of the odd and even players lately pretty disappointed by the buffs as they wreck their decks.
It sucks your decks were messed up. I’m hoping you can find decent subs for the nerfed/ buffed cards.
Define “sound.” If you broadly define “nerf” as any change which can potentially affect a card’s synergy negatively, then sure, it’s sound.
But is such a broad definition of “nerf” reasonable? If you’re looking at it from Blizzard’s perspective, it clearly isn’t. Any time a card’s synergies were negatively affected, only cards that were directly changed counted as nerfed. Other cards that were untouched but became less effective were not eligible for refunds. Two recent examples include Shudderwock after the Saronite Chain Gang nerf, and Juicy Psychmelon after the Aviana nerf. In both cases, decks built around these cards were effectively wiped out from their respective modes, but they weren’t eligible for refunds.
Based on this, we can safely assume that synergy-based nerfs aren’t considered nerfs by Blizzard (or at least, aren’t considered as far as full refunds go). Therefore, OP’s rationale, in light of Blizzard’s past actions is not sound. Quite the contrary.
Should Blizzard be more generous with their refunds? Maybe! But that’s a different question, and one which is irrelevant to the soundness of OP’s argument in the context of this specific set of buffs.
Max here pointed out the key word here: reasonable. It is reasonable to say these cards were all buffed, as most enjoyed mana cost reduction, which is useful in almost all cases. The few fringe cases where a price reduction is a nerf are in events where paying high costs matter (Medivh), or where having a specific price point matters (Keleseth, Odds/Evens).
It’s like saying a Magma Rager is better than an Ice Rager because of the fringe case where you can use Blast Wave to kill your own Magma Rager and overkill it to get a card, and that Steward of Darkshire can’t give an Ice Rager Divine Shield. It’s deciding the value of a card based on extremely fringe cases that almost never apply to claim that one minion with less stats is better than a similar minion of the same cost. This is not what we consider reasonable.
Besides, metas change and games evolve. If your old deck doesn’t work anymore because of an improvement, change your darn deck. I mean jeez, how do you handle getting a raise at work? “It’s not a raise because I pay more taxes!”
It is reasonable to give full value dust for the cards being changed, whether it was a buff OR nerf. It really can change the synergy of a deck if, for instance, flamestrike were “buffed” to cost 6 mana instead of 7, but it was the only good field wipe to use in your odd wild deck, or Frostlich Jaina being buffed to cost 8, etc etc. It may be a “buff” in standard play, but wild is a viable format that some people play as religiously. Plus, giving full dust value for these cards doesn’t hurt anyone that doesn’t dust.
Perfect example for showing you cannot make everyone happy, whatever you do. There are people who you can give 10 million of dollars and they will hate eventually.
THough I cannot ignore the fact they are clearly focusing heavy on expensive epic cards, so more people will “buy” them
I do not see Underbelly Mr infinite murloc card nerfed , which makes the whole laddering/card budget a joke. I dont see Conjureres Call being nerfed which gets you full board of late game cards by turn 5.
Remember when cards lost their Minion types and we got no dust. That was a nerf but we got no dust because creature types actually mattered in some cases but Blizzard said No its not a nerf so no dust for you. Don’t expect a dust refund for cards that were buffed when we didn’t even get refunds for cards that received minor nerfs.
Regardless whether these cards were buffed or nerfed, they were changed with a reason. Most of these cards didn’t really see play, and honestly this mana reduction isn’t going to make most of the cards any more playable. Blizzard probably knows this. And they probably also know that if they would give full refunds, people who weren’t all that interested in these cards before will most likely simply dust them.
If you run a Lucentbark deck with 2x Ancient of Lore, 1x Lucentbark and 2x. Gloop (Which isn’t unreasonable)
You could argue that the nerf has heavily devalued the “juicy sychmelon” in your deck as you now have 4x 7 drops and 1x 8 drops. risking only drawing 1 card with the Sychmelon.
And might have to cut the gloops to put in something else.