Nerfs and Buffs incoming (Zilliax, Lamplighter...)

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For constructed, the following cards will soon be changed:

Nerfs:

  • Hydration Station
  • Inventor Boom
  • Zilliax 3000 (Ticking Module)
  • Lamplighter
  • Concierge
  • Chia Drake

Buffs:

  • Ryecleaver
  • Ranger Gilly
  • Razzle-Dazzler
  • Natural Talent
  • Buttons
  • Cruise Captain Lora
  • Tsunami
  • Service Ace
  • Twilight Medium
  • Nightshade Tea
  • Conniving Conman

There are battlegrounds changes coming as well

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I hope they wont go with the boring 7 mana buff for Tsunami( but they will).
I would keep it at 8 but give it more value, the 8 mana slot in Mage belonging to Yogg alone irks me.

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Gun to my head, I couldn’t explain what half of these do based on names alone.

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More buffs than nerfs. Guess they just gave up on managing power creep.

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Which is exactly why they’re getting buffed xD

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True.

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OMG they killed Kenny!

They’re nerfing the only Zilliax I abuse (well, that one and lifesteal one)

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Prediction here: Elemental Mage will remain Tier 1 material. The deck will adopt the Watercolor Artist + Tsunami combo due to the buffs going harder for the board.

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Sad to see they caved to the lamplighter nerf… and there do not appear to be enough hunter buffs there.

I would have gutted marin over all the other changes.

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Oh huzzah, rogue got a dead package this expansion and get no buffs and the one card they can abuse in a semi decent deck is getting hit with a nerf, such foresight, or maybe this is all as planned

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It would be funny to me if the nerfs to hydration station and Inventor boom end up making warrior slightly stronger because 3x simultaneous Zilliax was overkill and getting a Zilliax, Hamm, and some other third taunt ends up being more dangerous.

(I’m assuming they just slap the word different on them)

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Thats the crux of the issue, Lamplighter is going to eat a nerf because of a core Rogue card they refuse to rotate.

And even then if the nerf is only 1 extra mana it might not matter much and the deck will carry on regardless with a lower win % but still playable.

If Lamplighter eats a real 2 mana nerf then by all means pick up the pitchfork.

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Buttons is the shaman tourist that draws a spell of each school type

The only reason i knlw this is because i discovered it and have yet to run it hard way in an actual deck

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One of the main problems is that making it cost 4 is no more challenging for rogue to use with Sonya.

3 and 4 are the primary costs to make Sonya spam copies. You need to make something cost 5 to make that awkward.

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Alright, here’s my prediction on both nerfs and buffs

NERFS

  • Hydration Station goes to 3 Different taunt minions, might still keep the highest cost portion so could read “your 3 different highest cost taunt minions”
  • Inventor Boom either 9 mana or also gets the 2 different mechs. My guess is 2 different friendly mechs because 9 mana seems like a dumb change
  • Zilliax 3000 Ticking Module ends up being costs 1 less for each Friendly unit. I’m like 99.999% sure that’s the change
  • Lamplighter goes to 4 mana. Although I want the change to be it gains Elusive.
  • Concierge goes to “not less than (1)”
  • Chia Drake goes to Refresh 3 mana crystals or to 5 mana

BUFFS

  • Ryecleaver goes to 5 mana (the win rate is so bad that a 1 mana buff will do nothing)
  • Ranger Gilly Goes to 5 mana or gains Taunt. I’d like to see it get both.
  • Razzle-Dazzler goes to 6 mana
  • Natural Talent goes to 2 mana
  • Buttons goes to 4 mana 4/4
  • Cruise Captain Lora to 6 mana
  • Tsunami to 7 mana
  • Service Ace goes to 3/4 (I honestly don’t know how a buff helps this unless it is gains +1 attack when attacking, but I don’t see them adding that)
  • Twilight Medium goes to 5 mana
  • Nightshade Tea goes to 1 mana maybe? Or the damage dealt to your hero goes to 1 but that’s not good synergy with the other cards so my guess is 1 mana.
  • Conniving Conman goes to 3 mana 3/3
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Chia drake is the spell draw / spell damage one.

Probably just going to 5 cost.

I don’t know why they haven’t made Nest Matron not free yet…

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Oh my bad, for some reason I thought the nerf to Druid was 100% the taunt dragon refresh because THAT card is the problem. If it’s the Spell damage one then yes, it goes up a mana for sure.

Yeah, this is dumb. THIS is the target for sure. Sometimes it is even better than free and is negative mana because it can cost 2 or 3.

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Idk, I think Sleep under the stars is a bigger problem

It’s literally a 1-mana draw 2 cards with added flexibility instead of having a drawback

It’s broken. It doesn’t belong in this game. Should refresh 2 crystals, not 3 each

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I dont understand why they’re going after a ryecleaver buff… Its essentially another mana/stat cheat deck exactly like zillax is now. A more fun idea would have been to have done something with the handbuff or amalgam or taunt portions of the set.

It would also have served to help hunter out a lot more as well. Seems like the design team is deadset on everything revolving around some mana cheat effect.

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ok play it on turn 1!

mage is the best elemental deck with less bad match ups and the warrior decks lamplighter mage loses to right now
are getting nerfed…

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