Ok, my problem is with the “Magnetic” effect. It will always be overpowered when it has this effect whilst it also having lifesteal. You’re guaranteed too much health regain since it also has Divine Shield.
Either…
Don’t make it have Magnetic
or
Don’t make it a “mech” type
or
Have it cost at least one mana more.
How about no?
Zilliax doesn’t call itself “perfection” for no reason. ![:slight_smile:](https://dacy5cilkxabf.cloudfront.net/en/hearthstone/images/emoji/twitter/slight_smile.png?v=6" ":slight_smile:")
he’s full of bs when he says that let’s be honest
Come on Zilli is absolutely not a problem.
Its mana cheat, not sustainability that’s the problem.
And/or aggro rogue getting 0-cost draw 3.
I mean something like that is nerf-worthy no-doubt.
But Zilli is like…it does nothing say vs a Bloomlock or Big Priest.
Like absolutely nothing. Dead card. Game-losing card.
Please look at the deck-core cards before calling for a nerf.
Zilli is just a sustainer…that doesn’t matter if the flood on the otherside of the board spiked in 1 turn is too-big.
Zilliax is in almost 50% of decks for ranked standard, surely that’s a sign that it needs nerfing.
What about no?
Nowadays decks are made of 29 cards + zilliax and if your recipe does not run zilliax for whatever reason your deck isn’t a good standard deck.
Zilliax now is good even in agressive decks due to it’s divine shield helping to remove taunts and sustain in mirror with no tempo loss.
Sorry for your bad wild experience but data in general says that even tempo rogue should tech a zilliax. It is a question of time before zilliax goes into every deck except mana cheating ones.
No.
That does not make any sense.
A huge amount of extremely powerful cards just rotated out, and most of the flexible tools, as a consequence.
Zilliax is almost the only the card, to give midrange decks a chance vs Tempo Rogue.
And his flexibility is needed, sorely.
Correlation does not equal causation.
Should we nerf Shield Block, Leeroy(for aggro), Shield Slam, Eviscerate and Brawl too?
They are in just about every deck if their respective classes, too.
Because it’s an all-around good card, not because it single-handedly wins games for every deck it’s put in.
Sylvanus and Raggy are often quoted as the “it’s used often enough to warrant a nerf” example, but the key difference folks keep missing is that those cards were Classic and would never rotate.
Blizzard has stated multiple times that they’re fine with expansion cards being strong for their slot as long as they aren’t detrimental to the meta in their use. Heck, in the recent Q&A they’ve said that they’re quite happy with the balance of Zilliax and don’t have any plans to nerf it.
Actually tempo rogue is certain nerf.
So there isn’t even need to discuss it anymore if people not perceived.
I would not hold my breath, until there is an announcement of an announcement announced soon, though.
Play WIld. Then come back and argue this ok?
Thanks.
So I should go to wild because a card is played in 50% of all standard decks. Surely I’m not the problem here when if it’s played that many times and I’m not the only one complaining about it.
You should recognize Wild when acting like a card is so OP it’s out of control.
HS has two formats, one is neglected, one is not.
Would you further-add to WIld’s neglect by not-even-mentioning it?
That’s just salt on the open-wound.
Not just that.
But people seem to jump on bandwagons, ignoring literally everything relevant, such as the rotation, HOF, previous nerfs, etc.
Context kind of stopped mattering.
While the smallest non-issue gets everyone riled up in Standard, Wild is becoming the mode for mana-cheating decks, almost exclusively.
If wild is neglected anyway just remove Zilliax from standard at least then it wont annoy up to the 50% of people who have to play against it in Standard.
Or keep it in because it’s a good card.
Going by your reasoning, just remove all good cards so Standard is nothing but Crocs and Yetis.
How do you not see that a card that is being played 50% of the time is a problem? There are plenty of good cards in standard.
Like Zilliax, that’s a good card.
Because that said card doesn’t win you games in great majority of the time. Very rarely do you win a match all thanks to Zilliax.
Which players like you would go after next without a doubt. Because, apparently, we can’t have even simply good cards, like Zilliax, in this game.
I’m on the move Zilliax to Classic Set so it never rotates side.