Sigh.
Congratulations. You found out the exact way I’ve been thinking for literally this entire thread. It took you like 40ish posts down but you finally got it.
I’ve said openly many times there are legitimate gripes people can have. Jonius did that and receptively got a lot of likes. I wish what he said wasn’t this far down. I’m continuously argunig against people saying that LoR ISN’T as friendly as Hearthstone.
But I’ve said many times if you don’t like the game that’s fine.
but only when you approve of their different beliefs right? because almost all your posts are telling someone they are wrong or trying to belittle them for not thinking like the fanboy character you try to be.
Thank you for sharing your experience.
I pretty much felt the same, even though i feel i played less LoR than you.
If i may add one thing, is that personally, what keeps me playing more hearthstone than any other card game is the graphic aspect of it, everything is so polished and flavourful for the eyes and ears, i don’t think LoR is there yet.
But on ANY other side i do agree that LoR is better
Yeah, I said he can say it’s better but not “inarguably better for everyone”. You are the most negative poster and flagger I see, might as well contact Blizzard.
No, “LoR gives much more it is inarguably better than HS no matter what” is what I saw from your posts, you just argue LoR is better in every way, calling Blizzard disgusting and money eating and stuff, in HS I used to have to play 5 hours a day! It’s your own experience, you are not defending it, but proactively showing how “awesome” LoR is, and saying the whole point of this thread is “praising LoR and blame Blizzard for all its fault” (“Team 5 must WAKE UP and start imitating LoR for all the good experience it gave me, I have the best time let the other HS players to try it too because they will probably feel the same because these games seems pretty much the same” is what I believe this thread means).
It wasn’t a belief he agreed with. It was a fact. Hearthstone can easily be free. You have to do your quests consistently. Either everyday or every 3 days. Then you Will be able to afford most or all meta decks each expansion.
Sure you won’t have all the cards. Which would be unrealistic to assume with that little effort and spending no money. Soo any claim that HS is expensive when you can and I have managed to play it for free since the start is just wrong.
You can on the other hand argue that the initial cost or hurdle to start playing hearthstone is a issue as any free to play player would have to play for pretty much 1 year to catch up (basically start playing at the start of or right before a new Hearthstone year starts and then invest your gold in just the new years expansions and then the next year buy the new years expansions would put you in a good spot to pick and choose what deck you want to play).
With DH free cards and a free deck that hurdle is smaller but still an obstacle as the amount of ”Good” decks is larger you Will now be forced into the meta from the start. Even the starter lvls will be full of overpowered DH decks as only people spending money Will afford crafting any proper deck of an other class
This x 1000 times.
Even though DH is the most hated deck in HS so far, it is the class that helps new players tremendously to catch up. 80% of the most important DH cards are free, and the total cost of the broken tier-S DH deck is fairly cheap (around 6000-7000 dust).
Compared that to LoR? Don’t have 20,000+ shard to craft a tier-1 deck, just wait to have your azz kicked by Masters players. The fact that even the cheapest aggro deck in LoR requires 3 legendaries proved that it is not as f2p-friendly as you guys think.
I recommend knowing what you’re talking about before saying something so easily disproven.
This is Hea\rthstone’s own design flaw. And guess what? Great budget LoR decks are taken to Masters because that’s just how CCG’s work. You’re trying to push blame on LoR for being balanced better. DH is still busted.
This is an AWFUL point to use. You’re using “20,000 shards” to fit your narrative while, yes, that can be true, Hearthstone also has 10k+ dust decks out on the meta. Except you don’t get dust nearly as quickly as you do shards. 20,000 shards is without substitutions but those come plenty, as do they in Hearthstone.
Wrong, and I’m honestly disappointed you would even try to push this to fit your narrative. LoR is still undeniably more F2P friendly; I’ve literally gone over why and just about everyone in this thread AGREES with me because it’s an undeniable fact.
But you worded what you said in such a way to twist it to sound horrible to anybody who doesn’t know what they’re talking about or know what’s going on.
You’re talking about burn aggro. The deck which barely runs epic cards. You went on Mobalytics and saw some burn aggro lists run Teemo, and rolled with that. There are so many holes in this.
So please, don’t make a flimsy argument and try to make a double standard about it. You can be just as budget in LoR as in Hearthstone but it’s easier in LoR due to how you get cards. Stop reaching so hard to push your agenda that you clearly have no idea what it’s even about. Find a better argument.
You still use such arrogant words. You say it’s “undeniably” better when it clearly isn’t. There are budget decks with no epics in HS which can also reach Legend if you use them correctly. But champions are important in LoR, maybe not but is still a core component of any good decks, yeah you can still win, but the fact you are saying “good things are only for masters” is clearly wrong. You are denying your own claim by stating “only good players who play on a regular basis (or even bot 24/7) can have good decks.” Think again, you missed many facts experienced HS players could have gotten. And wait, what about the free net deck the game just gave to new players, you forgot the free deck too!
I have been f2p the whole time. I usually get to build one or two decks and roll with it.
I used to consistently play the same classes, but those classes have changed so I don’t do that.
I have had hella success with a cheap murlock paladin. I am not legend, but I never set out to be. I made diamond in about two days and the rewards past there aren’t worth the effort.
ive flagged no one. you and healbot just love making things up and throwing your bs accusations at people.
Very analytical. This feedback should be given to LOR for them to improve their game. I agree their spells can be better. In MtG, we have swords to ploughshears for 1 mana, but owner gains life. Also force of will can be paid by card discards.
I hope they can make more of these via future releases as I recognise that LOR is a very new game. I feel that MTG 5 colours is a much better concept as the flavour for each Color is distinct, whereas the 7 regions are mostly minions, spells that do damage, and deny (the only spell interesting).
Yeah. People should also find ideas to improve HS.
Actually LOR’s busted Elusive aggro decks just use 3 Zeds, you get 2 copies as part of the NPE, so they’re just as budget friendly as aggro DH.
The Teemo Burn deck Cyclick mentioned isn’t as good as the Zed decks.
Just want to add to this slightly in that I genuinely can’t comprehend how people can be arguing about how generous LoR is.
I’m THE most casual LoR player imaginable. I have between 1-3 games a day, and regularly skip days altogether. I’ve been playing it VERY on and off since release (weeks of not playing at a time) - and I have three meta decks with enough shards to build a 4th.
I absolutely can’t understand how it’s even half comparable to hearthstone, heck, with HS I can only build a deck I want if I’ve played every day for months and can afford 80 odd packets when a new expansion drops, and even then it’s iffy.
7 months. Incomparable. Let’s say 5 months since you skipped weeks. In HS I can have around 75% of an expansion if sufficiently F2P, which is around 3 net decks or one meta deck. And do you know the value of the decks you got? Even basic decks can reach the best ranks in LoR. In HS budget decks are like 200% better than basic decks. The value is, very, different.
Riot is known for its respect because many people just never care about the details you know? 1 trillion bucks in one country can worth one dollar in USA (exaggerating a bit). But anything can climb ladder, as you said, which makes the meta decks not as valuable as in HS. More =/= Better.
Eh I mean, ok I’m completely free to play in both games.
In hearthstone, if I complete every quest between expansions (so playing daily) - I can buy around 80 packs (if I remember correctly, it’s been a while) - and depending on how lucky I get, I get around 3-4k dust. Perhaps 6k. So enough for what, 3 legendaries? Maybe a couple more?
And that’s playing every single day!
With LoR, I’ve played not a lot AT ALL. I mean I genuinely can’t stress enough how little I have played. I’ve been playing other games and just logging on occasionally when I’m really bored. And I’ve been able to craft every single deck I’ve wanted to play - and I said, I’ve got enough saved up to buy another, if one took my fancy (it doesn’t at the mo).
What I mean is, with absolutely quite literally the most minimum effort I could have put in to the game - I’ve been able to afford exactly what I want, and more.
The same just CAN’T be said for Hearthstone. Even if I wanted a fairly budget deck, with let’s say, one legendary. I’d have to grind for weeks to be able afford 1.6k dust, assuming I wasn’t dusting my collection.
As far as deck value, eh I play a tier 2 deck in LoL. But as I said, I’ve got a few meta ones. In hearthstone I only play wild and have genuinely no idea what’s good/bad at the moment as I’m pretty out of touch.
Legendary cards aren’t as important, you just need a couple of consistent epics and bulk will do the rest of your work. Unlike in LoR, where exact champions must be in certain decks as a core component.
I mean I’ve played Hearthstone since release, so yeah I have a fair understanding of deck composition 
The point isn’t specifics though, even if I wanted two epic cards, TWO. I’d still have to grind for a good few weeks.
In LoR, I genuinely haven’t even felt a grind at all. Just some extremely light playing, for what feels like extremely nice rewards.
Sure, most decks need champions. But when they’re virtually handed to you (at least, enough for three decks in my case, not to mention all the champions I have that I don’t use) - I just can’t see that as an issue.
Edit. I’m not actually defending anything else in LoR here, I think it has its pros and cons. But the reward structure, in my eyes, is leaps and bounds and a huge order of magnitude more generous than Hearthstone.