As far as I saw many times, if you make one mistake and lose a match by your own fault… the MM start to drops you back to your last sured rank with 0 stars… maybe it lets you win some until dropped down completely… but eventually… you will land there with 1 or 0 stars until the game is let you win again and start to climb. Call me paranoid but I can say multipple examples for that from my own cases. Some times after too many wins it starts to make you lose anyway… because of the 50% win rate limit… But always lets you go up a little bit higher before starting to drop back. So basically all you need is patience and perfect playing to go up higher and higher. The MM lets only good players to go up who makes no mistakes.
point was really simple.
Diamond rank players can lose ranks 1-4 while matched with legend rank players, but legend rank player have nothing what to lose, they will stay at legend despite losing.
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Yes, thats what I said in my first repply… you are right… and if that is true… then developers should change the rules to let players above D5 still get bonus star for win streaks because they are forced to face Legendaries… who have nothing to lose… but D5 is just fighting to get the Legendary finally… I believe those players are easy Legendaries who already have 10-11 bonus stars… but not for players with 9 stars… and if they need to face Legendaries then it is really unfair… However, no one cares… they all know it I think…
They still lose ranking, it’s just a different rank system after legend.
And, if they had nothing to lose, wouldn’t that mean that they are more likely to make careless mistakes?
If you are in diamond, you are basically playing at low legend skill levels. The main difference between you and them is time spent playing this month.
maybe re-read first post then talk. I’m already legend rank and facing D1-5 for no reason. My legend rank stays same but they keep losing.
There’s a reason you’re facing them - your mmr is bad and the closest match is those people instead of actual legend players.
If you won some games, you would stop seeing lower ranked players.
Ok, it all still applies, just swap the people.
It’s not unfair, you are both around the same skill level. Your MMR is about the same as the diamond players you face. It doesn’t matter if one person is losing stars, or another is losing legend rank.
Your MMR doesn’t change much from a single game anyway, so win or lose, you probably won’t see much change on your end from 1 game.
i mean…
Legend ranks should have a totally separate mmr from climbing ladder. It’s actually obvious.
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They do, and they don’t.
You have a MMR the entire time that adjusts based on your wins and losses.
When you have a star bonus, you are exclusively matched up based on that (so legend players don’t get paired up against bronze at the beginning of every month).
When you exhaust your star bonus, you primarily get matched up based on star rank. When you get close to legend, it’ll include the legendary pool as well based on your MMR to improve game queue times (and your skill levels are similar anyway).
The two systems work together. Legend players have never been exclusively paired against other legend players.
Tell us you don’t understand matchmaking without saying it.
which is really really difficult for some and not at all for others.
Why would you be against not matching Legend ranked players against a new player lucky enough to win a few games in a row? Do Legend players really need those matchups? Only the Devs need the matchups so newer players have a harder time ranking up. Gotta make sure that blessed 50% win rate is spread evenly among all the low folks.
This doesn’t happen.
The player either has the MMR to play with legend players or they don’t get matched with them. There’s no way they are same rank without bonus stars unless someone is smurfing.
This comment says you’re ignorant of how the system functions and why it exists.
I have higher than 50% win rates on almost every deck I play. There’s no “forced” win rates.
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Your MMR doesn’t get Legend-high by “winning a few games in a row”. I’d find it very hard to have any newplayers matching against current legend players.
If you think anyone with the card back is a legend player, though, that’s on you
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And by “new” you would have to mean a legend player smurfing on a new account, which, you know, isn’t actually a “new” player.
So how many games in a row do you have to win for you to see tougher matchups? Its actually funny that this game is completely polarized one way or the other. Ill win 8 out of 10 games then hit a wall of counter matchups. And this happens all the time as long as I can remember. So if winning a few games in a row does not push someone into what the game considers “fair matchups” to ramp up the difficulty of their ipponents when does this happen? Way too many fishy coincidences in all this.
Difficulty tends to vary with time. In the old days when we has Number difficulty there tended to be strata of similar decks ie you might have a strata of murloc shaman and similar decks then you would have decks that beat murloc shaman then you would have the decks that counter that.
Generally I If I win a dozen games in a row I feel I play harder players.
Generally the day after reset they tend to more difficult.
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You have chosed the wrong person for your repply I guess… I am not Rayray but repplied to me. 
Iv been matched with d9-d1 players at legend 1500. This was wild though.
I have been gaming for 8 hours straight for 3 days now in order to reach legend and the more i win the often i meet legend players… with that said its rarely that i win… i got to D3 yeastday and now im D5… I get your point and i feel the same as you about quitting hearthstone…
Just sad that it has come to this.