nothing you or anyone could ever say anything, that would make me believe that the use of deck trackers is not cheating
they provide info you are not able to get by any other means
factually wrong. blizzard has given their consent for their use so by default they cannot be cheat
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again you will not change my mind
deck tracker = cheating
i dont need to change your mind
the government (blizzard) has approved the use of deck trackers
they cant be a cheat by defalt due to that
they have not given permission to autoclick software thus using it is cheat
you can keep repeating the same thing over and over
but
deck tracker still cheating
you can repeat the same thing over and over
you are still wrong
its not cheating if its been allowed by the governing body - not you
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unless you can provide evidence that deck trackers are not used for cheating
i will continue to know for a fact that it is
i dont need evidence
blizzard has stated deck trackers are fine to use so they arnt cheating by default
then i dont need to read anything you have to say
so long, forever
bai felicia
you are still wrong
auto clicking software is cheatin
deck trackers software are noyt
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They sure are.
In practice I donât know how you would find someone using said clock method to automate their clicks, but it is definitionally cheating to have any outside force that isnât the player automate the game.
Not to wade into controversy, but to be clear the deck tracker does not have any information you canât get via any other means. With some coding skill you could just build your own deck tracker - the information is provided by Blizzard to the client, meaning it is fully available to you. Just because you donât know how to access or build an interface to the data doesnât mean it doesnât exist.
Feel free to parse your own log files during a game - youâll get exactly the same data. The code for the Hearthstone deck tracker is literally posted on Git as open source.
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For the best âcomputer peopleâ: software will look âmechanicalâ to Blizzard (I mean they wonât detect it directly with their anti-Cheat on battle.net),
but Blizzard can still detect it[if they care to do it(and they seem to do it occasionally)], server-side indirectly.
You can see a log file manually that shows the cards played, and you can make your own tools reading that file.
Or so Iâm told thatâs how Firestone etc work ; I havenât bothered to check it myself but it sounds simple enough; one could even make some kind of script that gives them advice based on a script they wrote themselves lol⌠(damn I gave ideas to myself (but I probably wonât do it (I already do a lot of programming work for other non-game-related jobs as it is))).
The dude literally explained that in details one post above you:
I donât know if youâre aware but 95% of hearthstone users farm 24 hours a day with bots, around 300 gold a dayâŚthen you decide what to doâŚfrom what Iâve seen, a good bot is totally identical to a human player
You and DomSchitt are simply misfiring at each other. Your view is based on ethics where as DomSchittâs view is based on legality. Ethically, you are right that a deck/card tracker is cheating. It removes/reduces errors that we would otherwise naturally make, which is part of the game play in card games. I personally donât use such software because I enjoy the challenge of having to exercise my brain through the game. Legally though, DomSchitt is right that it is not cheating because the copyright holder officially authorized its use. Instead of bickering at each other, try to understand each otherâs point of view. You both have valid points, and itâs not necessary to attack each other. FYI, this message isnât directed at just you. I just couldnât find a way to ping both of you.