Wait until you manage to understand “willful stupidity”.
Has a weird, cartoon parody-esque effect.
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Fixed.
Direct your anger at the company selling the addictive substance, not at thier victims.
You’re trying to victim shame.
All this time and you don’t even play HS? You’re just here to shout on your soapbox about [personal anti-game dev agenda items]??
My god, maybe you need more help than the folks opening packs in a card game.
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Wow.
Seriously? Wardad VICTIM SHAMING?!
Are you drunk?
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You think gambling addiction is a soapbox?
You seemed to be bending over backwards to defend the victims of abuse at Blizzard the other day.
But when it comes to loot boxes leading to gambling addiction, gamblers who find themselves in a situation that often leads to suicide, you call it a “soap box”.
So you don’t play the game anymore and yet waste all that time posting on its official forums ?
Literally all your threads are bashing blizzard and their practices, as well as their players and supporters, I guess deep inside you’re happy this scandal came out so you can justify your hidden agenda.
That’s even worse than Mallenroh at this point.
Here are a few examples:
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Right, because opposing loot boxes and calling out the hypocritcal streamers actually promoting it, is some “hidden agenda”.
Where have you been the last 5 years? Overwatch’s loot boxes were literally banned in countries due to preying on minors.
Look, I’ve witnesses the effects of gambling addiction but I think you’re reaching entirely too far to try and make your points. Your accusations toward Blizz and streamers get more outlandish every time and after witnessing just how high of a horse you believe yourself to ride upon and now finding that your only presence on this forum is to peddle your anti-game agenda…
Congratulations, you’re the first person on a forum that I’m actually going to block.
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So have you dusted your entire collection and uninstalled the game & the bnet app yet ?
Because I’d be willing to bet you haven’t, which means you’re doing the opposite of what you’re trying to preach.
You despise the company and their practices so much and yet still played it until very recently ?
Asking a company and streamers to stop promoting mechanics that lead to problem gambling and ruin people’s lives is “outlandish” ?
When Belgium’s gambling authority banned Overwatch loot boxes due to the links to problem gambling, they were “outlandish” ?
Congratulations, you’re the first person on a forum that I’m actually going to block.
Be my guest, it’s the easiest way out.
there are no loot boxes in hs. there are CARD PACKS which everyone has access to, for free. ow has loot boxes. go to their forums and cry about it.
edit: hs’s card packs have blp for duplicates, and on how many packs you open before being guaranteed a legendary.
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oh ffs
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do you cry that mtg has card packs too? cuz they’ve existed for ages and popularized the whole thing. the fact hs is totally digital and has blp up the wazoo and you’re pretending that is anything like at loot box at all just means you’re concern trolling. my grandfather (who helped raise me, as my mom was an addict) destroyed huge parts of my life as a child because of his addictions, one of which was to gambling. so go on and call me an apologist because i know the actual differences between predatory practices and virtue signalling.
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That’s part of the problem. The fact loot boxes exist in an environment where Blizzard uses psychologists to tune everything from sounds, to colors, to FOMO during expansions, to get people addicted to the loot boxes.
It has been shown that online casinos are far more addictive than regular physical casinos.
So no, I don’t think loot boxes or “card packs” (same thing) are comparable with physical card packs. They exist in different environments.
And governments who banned loot boxes but did not ban card packs, agree with me. There is ample data showing loot boxes leading to problem gambling, there is no evidence that I am aware of that shows this for phsycial card packs.
To be fair: cardpacks are, literally, lootboxes. But instead of containing “loot”, they are filled with painted, digital pieces of pasteboard.
What you mentioned was introduced later, as to appease the community for the understandable frustration the lack of “safety/regulation” incited.
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i am 100% against actual gambling because i have a predisposition to addiction of all kinds, and it is genetics. i am also extremely lucky and have people tell me all the time that should go to vegas cuz i would clean house. been told it since a child. i would clean house if i bought lotto tickets or whatever. but i won’t even do that. not even $1 scratch tickets. i didn’t get into mtg or any card game as a kid because pearl clutchers such as yourself made me paranoid about it spiraling out of control. didn’t play hs initially for the same reasons. wife got me into it. i saw how this game works and that you literally have the world handed to you for free and the only thing you’d have to buy at all, if you wanted it, were specific cosmetics. so now i see it for what it is “think of the children” level concern trolling. if anyone would have issues with stuff like this it’s someone like me. who has an extremely addictive personality.
also, children who have parents who give them free access to a credit card to buy thousands of dollars of loot boxes without any sort of supervision? that’s bad parenting.
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That’s anecdotal.
I do respect your attitude, though.
Sure, parents hold part of that responsibility.
But just like parents would be outraged if a drug dealer sold drugs to their kids, or a bar served alcohol to their kids, so do they have every right to be outraged at Blizzard for preying on minors with loot boxes.
the parents hold 100% of the responsibility. i’ve been a young child. at no point would i have ever spent that kind of money on ANYTHING let alone that stuff. because my guardians were not complete idiots. as far as illicit substances go. children do that to children. as an adult i have no clue how to access anything of that nature, but as a child i knew how to get xyz because of other children. didn’t do that, either.
the people who were the ones selling it were children. the fact that children do sell that stuff, do kill others, do harm women in certain ways- there’s a reason you can try some children as adults. they are not all completely innocent victims who need to be protected from the evils of the world. they ARE the evils. i know this firsthand because of my cousins. they had great supportive parents who did everything they could, my cousins were still demons.
also, i know of someone who looked like a huge grown man at 16 who walked into a bar and was never carded, is my sisters bffs little brother. the people who did that were completely irresponsible and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.
things are almost never black and white. some children are preyed on. but some prey on others.
It’s perhaps not necessarily the loot box aspect that is problematic, children can grasp the concept that they cannot control what comes out of a pack, yeah maybe if they are like okay I didn’t get it the first time I’ll open 10 more… still no… I’ll open 10 more… I think the problem is more that there are or can be a series of microtransactions, I’ve spoken to people whereas when they were young children don’t even know how much they’ve spent on these things.
Then where hearthstone is different to other lootbox games to me is that I’ve never really seen a game with such a capacity to spend $1000, $2000, $3000 and still need to spend more to have more, I mean maybe games like candy crush also have no limit. If anything streamers make it easier on children to not spend because sometimes children are just happier watching other people spend, open packs and not play the game.