Hows do i deal with priest and it's infinite removal?

I’m playing galakrond secret rogue.

So…no matter how many times i toss stuff on the board, no matter how much i keep back to play when inevitably my board gets wiped…priest doesn’t seem to have a weakness to exploit. The value-minions keep coming, removal keeps flowing, galakrond keeps giving stuff. I can’t outlast priests, i can’t face em down due to the high amount of healing…

How do i deal with priests?

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You don’t with that deck it’s a bad match up for you. You pretty much have to hope your RNG cards lotto for you so you can out tempo them.

Priest is a strong deck in the meta right now. You basically need a late game deck with high end game value to beat them.

Aggro decks with low cost minions get brutally punished by them. It’s no different for my Hunter decks and I am sure most DH’s.

Personally how I deal with them? I just auto concede.

Why bother playing them? Your odds of winning into them are extremely low, and the games take like 20 minutes to finish because priests never play the board until like turn 8. So even though you lose its extremely slow and painful.

You could get 2 more games done in the time it would take you to play out that whole priest game.

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Reliably? No idea. But your decks has so much rng flying around you can outvalue them in the late game if the rng is right.

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Galakrond Secret Rogue is favored against all current Priest archetypes, and very favored against Resurrect Priest.

So strong, their best deck archetype barely sticks to the bottom of tier 2 at a whopping 50.7% winrate.

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You should be sending their first wave of minions back to hand, and you keep Flik in the Mulligan so you can kill the first copy of a minion, preferably Khartut (never kill second copies with Flik, but it’s fine to kill res copies if they still haven’t played the second copy). You should be able to out push face and out tempo them afterwards.

You don’t want to play into their AOE early on. You don’t need early tempo, so you can make their AOE bad by playing one minion and a Lackey.

Go super greedy with Lackey Discover. I once forced AOE on a single Poisonous minion off the 6 mana Contract.

Don’t play your Galakrond hand at once, or you risk Soul Mirror and Murozond. Make them work for their AOE.

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You play priest did I offend you?

50 percent win rate isn’t bad at all. Do you think that’s bad?

The deck is beyond annoying, even if I though I could take the priest id still rather dodge 10/10 times because I don’t want to sit there for 25 minutes win or lose.

You people also look into stats way to much to indicate everything. I win match up’s i’m not favored in all the time. You simply learn the match up and learn what are good or bad plays for you. Or what hand could give you the win into that match up and try hard draw it.

Face hunter shows around a 52-53 percent W/R right now. Yet I have a 58 percent win rate over the last 3 days at 51-37. Why simply because I invest time into learning how to play all the match ups.

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That’s a whole lot of assuming you’re doing there, buddy.

Weird, I don’t remember saying it was bad. I did say it wasn’t strong, which it isn’t. A deck archetype that wins half its matches can hardly be considered strong.

Good for you? Whether the deck is annoying or not is irrelevant to this conversation. Tyani’s question was how to beat Priest decks, not whether Priest decks are annoying or not.

All of which is irrelevant to a) Tyani’s question, and b) your original response. The stats show that Priest decks aren’t particularly strong, and even if you, personally, have a better-than-average winrate with a given archetype, that just means that your particular conditions are different from the overall meta. This can be because your personal pocket meta is more favorable to the deck you play, you have a better than average understanding of the deck you play, your opponents have a less than average understanding of your counter decks, or most likely a combination of all that (and then some other reasons thrown in).

None of that changes the fact that Galakrond Secret Rogue is very much favored against Priest decks, which means the issue is most likely on how Tyani is piloting the deck, not on a weakness of the deck itself (unless they’re running a suboptimal build). That you think Priests are a bad matchup for Galakrond Rogue is neither true, nor helpful to Tyani’s questions.

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Pffft BHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! :rofl:

Playing one of the best decks in the game and you’re asking us how to beat PRIEST which you’re heavily favored against as a class! :joy:

You mean other than Rogue as a class? :stuck_out_tongue:

By getting gud.

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Can tell your one of those that argue to argue. I’ll concede so I don’t have to listen to it anymore.

You keep taking statements directed at you and turning them into ones directed at the topic.

Weird, I don’t remember saying it was bad. Meanwhile I asked you a question… If you thought it was bad. Yet you are treating it like i’m putting words in your mouth that you said it was.

Can’t stand talking to people like you. You are extremely arrogant clearly.

Edit: Not to mention your saying that my reply’s aren’t helpful. Yet I haven’t seen you give him a inch of advice this whole time. All your doing is ranting at me instead.

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Galakrond priest is lowkey tier 1 once people refine the list and l2p it. Its got more value than rogue due to generating spells, stealing cards and galakrond hero power, especially if they hit big on the HP and spell generation.

Awful deck to play against as well due to double plague of death and soul mirror being broken removal.

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And yet…

I’m selfless like that.

Weren’t you? If you weren’t, then why bring up the issue at all? We weren’t talking about whether the deck is good or bad (however you define it), but whether the deck is strong. What would be the point of asking whether I think a deck is bad or not in this context?

But if the answer is so important to you, then here you go: Resurrect Priest decks aren’t bad. They also aren’t good. They’re mediocre. And worse, they’re boring to play.

Probably true. But at least I’m not the one who came into a thread, gave terrible advice, and then proceeded to get all huffy about getting called out on it. I like to think I take my losses with some grace.

I disagree. You said Priest was a bad matchup for Rogue. I corrected you, which is helpful in itself. I didn’t go beyond that because I don’t play Galakrond Rogue, so I have no experience to speak to how to play that deck. I do know that playing as a Priest against that deck it feels like an uphill climb, but that by itself didn’t seem particularly helpful.

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Hey look still typing to me. Hey look still not giving advice to the OP. Hey look not reading your essay. Goodbye I guess you couldn’t comprehend I don’t want to talk with you from the last post. Keep wasting your time typing what I wont read though.

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Agreed the deck is extremely annoying to play against.

You do like 15-20 damage from turn 1-5.

They heal all the way back to full. You are now down to like 2-3 cards.

Then they slap taunt’s down, you finally get through the 15-20 hp in taunts and have almost no hand.

Next turn they resurrect it all back. And you are just sitting there with a single card in your hand like…

Doesn’t help their like 15 taunts with reborn now. And one that basically heals you for 6. That they can resurrect endlessly if you don’t have another way of dealing with it outside of killing it.

So hard to out tempo them.

If you are an aggro deck they just heal through all your damage and their healing generates more healing until they run you out of gas.

If you are combo they borderline do the same thing. Unless you hit them with a nasty RNG spike from generated cards.

If you play a late game build you have the best chance, but theirs not really any out there right now. I see big druid sometimes, but that’s about it. DH’s destroy late game builds so nobody is playing them because lets be real 30 percent of the ladder is DH.

I wonder how long priest vs priest games take. I don’t even want to begin to imagine lmao

Based on that you are talking about aggresive decks. Control decks used to anihilate decks like these. And in a limited unreliable way they are still doing it.

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I mean no not just aggro decks any deck.

Priests simply don’t play anything on the board until 5-6. So even if your playing a combo deck you are still slapping them here and there.

Yes Control decks usually handle priests, but their is no top teir ones at the moment and the ones that do see play. See very very very little play.

i m not sayin priest is good or bad, but galakrond secret rogue has (according to today’s statistic) a winrate of 70.62 % against Res. Priest and 68.47 % against. galak. Priest. These are the lowest winrate of priest classes in current meta. There is definitly something wrong with your playing style.

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Thats because other decks do not have solid control tools (well priest also isnt some kind of control monster, but they are carried by res mechanic).

It might change in next expansion or expansion after that. Also usually when some kind of combo deck emerges, priest kinda disappear from the game.

Right now the reliable way how to handle priest is either defeat them as fast as possible or outvalue them. Priest doesnt have any card draw so they arent going to magically put removal after removal and then proceed to res taunt walls. (It might happen but that would require them to draw like gods, so unreliable).

Rogue has some solid ways how to mess up with their plan and outvalue them. Other classes might lack that ability either because missing cards to come up with that deck or missing cards to stabilize against DH and in the same time proceed to value late game.

I agree with a lot of this. However I cant agree on dealing with them by killing them extremely fast.

I play face hunter right now which is easily the fastest deck currently if not its gotta be super close 2nd. I know it out paces DH and they are pretty fast themselves.

I can literally put up to 15 damage in 4 turns and they will fully heal it with ease. Had a game yesterday where I legit had the ideal early aggro hand into a priest, pumped around 15 damage into him by turn 4. Between his hero power and heal spells in hand. He jumped to 29 the next turn. By then I was exhausted and done.

Usually even if I can somehow dodge around the healing spells, by turn 5-6 the taunts start going down and then its just over. Have to double kill them multiple times, which just feeds into the priests ress pool.

I know its a bad match up in general, but I just don’t see beating them early ever unless they draw really poorly.

I’m 2-14 after 3 days played into them. One of the wins was a dc. The other win was because the guy misplayed not realizing what my porcupines did and killed himself.

I just don’t see a world where beating them early is possible.

Doing quite well climbing the ladder, just wondering if there’s something i’m missing vs priest. :stuck_out_tongue: i’m struggling a bit against them. Can see that there’s a clear divide between helpful and trolls (people like “siperos”) xD

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Thats what I have meant :smiley: Thanks to lack of card draw you have to kill them asap till they get responses and can transition from removals to taunt wall.

If they manage to heal through your dmg, remove your threats even with limited card draw, that means their luck on muligan and early draws was pretty great.