People are not that eager to be abused. You are asking F2P players to play considerably worse decks so they would lose easily because they would not have the Twist cards already.
If you’re that generous why don’t you start by giving ADDITIONALLY Wild packs when we play Wild which is a format that is up all the time?
Why do you say that? It’s the most hostile to new players, because all the F2P players who are new have practically 0 cards from old expansions.
They also have almost 0 incentive to buy them.
It would be dumb for Standard optimization.
its all about HS
we spend money on a game because we have fun playing it
how many cards you get
how many of those would be new cards
how many are you missing their rarity and which ones
how much time we spend playing wild
all of it adds/decreases value to these bundles
as i said for someone whos missing rares from those expansions because we didnt had duplciate protection they can get at least 20 new rares 1 legendary per expansioon because of the guaranteed legendary in the first 10 packs
and 2 epics per expansion
Yes. Play worse decks. You don’t need a full stable of tier 1 decks to enjoy a mode.
Being at a tactical and strategic disadvantage due to being a have-not is not abuse. It’s a challenge.
Yes. Give wild and twist packs as rewards for playing those modes. F2P players like any free pack.
Because they did absolutely everything possible to push it to new players.
At some point they did even go with the pauper format.
Done the most tame formats possible after the class cards only ruleset.
Basically they wanted to push new players in to sell then old stuff later as if it was new.
With that they alienated who really wanted the format and would even be willing to some bucks here and there to keep up with it.
People wanting to play twist aren’t there for “game balance” or for “healthy gameplay”. They are there because they are bored and are willing to play some of the dumbest stuff possible to get out of the boredom.
It should not be that dificult or even take the amount of time the heroes whizbang heroes stuff did take to develop:
We play it one month, outright ban the outliers without even caring, play another month and change the entire thing after that.
What is dificult about that?
It only gets dificult when you’re an idiot who think that everything on the new has to welcome new players.
Well, every person, other than you, apparently, needs to spend money on things besides hearthstone. So you’re wrong in the broader, actually relevant sense.
Carch-up packs for Twist might be a good fix, and would have more value to everyone, since they have a fresh pity timer for every included set. Veteran players, who are more likely to spend money have no use for another 20 WotOG packs.
Sorry I won’t be your punch bag to increase your win rate on Twist, by having you copy paste optimized netdecks against worse decks. The majority of players will be in my position.
Be abusive against your players like that, and you will lose more and more of them.
i know a lot of peopel spend more in beer in 2 months than i spend on HS in a year but no idea why are we talking about how people spend their money
If people want to netdeck, you can’t stop them… They’ll be up in diamond and legend having their fifty man crcljrk and the people who want to play weird jank can do that down in the lower ranks with the F2P poors. Same deal as Standard.
You have a fiendishly low bar for what constitutes abuse…
You think people will accept social racism that easily.
They play Standard as F2P mainly with netdecks.
They will not play Twist with bad decks.
Here’s an idea, give up on Twist, bring back Duels. I’m f2p, but would spend money on Duels if we got it back.
Too much work. It’s more profitable to re-release ancient expansions, and try to leech money by selling ancient packs.
If they wanted to actually make a better game there are plenty of things they can develop.
E.g. the single player part of the game is practically completely abandoned.
I just wish the Caverns versions of the old cards has the original watermarks. It’s infuriating to have extra space taken up in the collection for no good reason.
You’re right that way more old cards could use some updating.
I wish they would buff more old expansions. Galakrond priest buffs when blizz lol
Well… There’s a word for it. It’s called “classism”. (“Social racism”? XD If you’re 12 or something, then I forgive you and apologize for giving you a hard time.)
F2P players chose to use their money for something else, and, in fact, a lot of them take pride in that status. Why do you insist on portraying them as downtrodden victims? Give them packs for playing Twist, and they’ll play Twist, even with bad decks. I’m not even F2P, and I would. Bad decks are the bees’ mammaries.
No. I’m just not American. I wonder if you speak my language as well as I speak yours.
Also societal racism is a valid term if you cared to google it,
but it’s predictably a hated term by the extremist right.
“Societal racism” may be a real thing, but it sure isn’t what we were discussing, nor is it what you said. So maybe I taught you something. That’s uncharacteristically awesome.
It wasn’t funny because I think you suck at English (I don’t), it’s funny because you did the meme where you call everything racism, regardless of whether it has anything to do with race. It’s a viewpoint/personality characteristic, not a vocabulary problem. Did you end up searching “INFJ”? It’s an interesting system, though I am sure there are flaws and exceptions.
I don’t think anybody but the biggest, narcissistic sociopath would look down on F2P players. Nobody else cares. We’re happy to have them around. Sometimes I even concede at the end if they put up a valiant effort playing some interesting jank, and I already finished my quest. Respect concede, not pity.
I agree that F2P need some TLC to reinvigorate the neglected formats. I don’t see value in continuing to flog solutions which have no realistic chance of implementation because there is no incentive for Bliz.
I only play battlegrounds… that’s like 5% of all of the game that is Harthstone, and it has so many pay to win manipulative tactics in it, there are so many problems with the game, bugs, balance issues… I cannot IMAGINE how bad it must be for the other 95% of Harthstone…. Yikes Blizzard.
Why should they lower the cost of these cards just because you think they are of lesser value. Players how have been keeping up to date with the game paid those prices, what makes you think you should be entitled to a discount because they are no longer in Standard?
You have to teach yourself on what you think you know, because societal racism would only be strictly race-related if you didn’t put ‘societal’ in front.
But as I said if your sources are the extremist right you’re not going to find support for that (they like their racism to be old fashioned).