Druidstone? How to fix it?

The people will say stuff like “just put up a big board to stop it!”

Like, ok…that’s a valid argument.

If I wasn’t at 4 mana when they are at 12.
If he didn’t just play swipe for 10 damage to my face and 7 to my board

Sure, it’s balanced. If those things weren’t real things.

You Warlocks will suffer for the sins of the Druid!

There’s a reason it’s not broken in Warlock and it feels “fair” in Warlock.

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To be fair, I’ve been saying it’s broken ever since I first saw it in action, especially in Insanity, because combo’d with crescendo, it guarantees full dmg face xD

With that said, if we’re going to powercreep a certain class and a mechanic as old as the game, it might be a good idea not to nerf the decks which are older than Jesus’ grandmother from mother’s side, cuz then the powercreep will be even worse

Yeah, that’s why I’d generally target all the obscene stuff Druid does outside of trogg. Trogg is BS, and shouldn’t have been made the way it is… but most of whats keeping druid glued to the top of the meta is just all of the free or mana regenerative BS it does after it ramps to have double your total mana.

Trogg is just an icing on that cake.

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Everyone, listen to this guy

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I’m not a huge fan of nerfs with major collateral damage outside the class. If you axed trogg we would just go back to concierge druid being their best deck and it’d murder aggressive lock decks in the process. (really the only thing that annoys the crap out of me with those is that Crescendo is a fel spell)

The negative and free mana cards are the core of EVERY druid deck, and they are all obnoxiously powerful because of them.

I’d rather not have the rest of this year just be Dragon ramp into Dorian + Eonar nonsense out of druid, with small flavor changes on the 4-5 cards they use to kill you.

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So can We just admit that they have pampered Druid for years now?
When players complain about it they will go back to showering Rogue.

If “This is why we can’t have nice things” were a class, it would be Druid.

I think most players know this, except for Druid mains.

You ever notice Druid mains are silent? When’s the last time you heard someone claim to be a Druid main? Can you name a single one on these forums? Ever see a Druid main complain about another class?

Makes you think now, doesn’t it?

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I think people here give the designers way too much credit. Select classes can have plenty of nice things. Just not the ones that certain designers don’t play.

a turn 7-8 “free” 10/12 body is not that broken in the meta, painlock can reliably cheat out ~20/20 by turn 5 (4 if lucky)

rheastraza would be absolute GARBAGE if it was just infinite dragons, lets’ be clear here.

yet absolutely no one took issue with Audio Amplifier, despite it enabling Brann + Astalor in every deck list. Maybe what you mean is “druid shouldn’t be good.”

Gem Tosser is genuinely fine in Warlock, it’s hard to spend enough mana in the warlock decks aggressive enough to want a 6-7 damage finisher, and its perfectly fine in slower decks for warlock too. I just think warlock/druid split cards were all a mistake tbh.

That’s only because we don’t actually have any solid tempo 1-2 drops right now.

yeah this is pretty annoying ngl

Anubisath and Nestmatron are both functionally 0 mana, and those are not the only ones we’ve seen with meta dominance.

The problem with “not really 0 mana but actually 0 mana” anti-aggro tools is that the big drawback of aggro has (and continues to be) the lack of infinite gas, and having literally free tools to break aggros’ (well) aggression means it no longer reliably beats combo decks.

honestly, wand should just be 3 mana Skull of Gul’dan. It’d still be stronger than every other treasure but it wouldn’t cause instant abuse cases for Druid.

Make the devs stop playing druid and paladin.

How wonderful would it be if other classes get a chance too.

Want to talk about astalor? In druid? Remember 52 damage herpa derpa druid (maybe it was even more i cant remember exactly) who also had ignis and 20 mana? With brann? Yeah druid should not mention brann and astalor. Ever.

Dragons generated by Purified Nest should not have a discounted mana cost.

They do, because you wouldn’t use a 9 mana do nothing card to clog your hand with random junk dragons without a proper incentive to do so

Now, maybe you would all agree you’d rather see those dragons buffed (+3/+3 or something), but there’s not much difference between this and that, anyway

The point still stands that you have to provide an incentive to play a 9 mana x/x stats in today’s hearthstone, or it just won’t be played

“He forgot”; they may not have known; not everyone plays for 8 hours a day. You seem to have the delusion everyone knows the cards and they are stupid if they don’t play them well.

There are different types of intelligence than your own and you are unaware of them.

At the ranks Altair is usually at, they generally all play for hours per day, and forgot is the most likely scenario.

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I don’t think it’s a matter of intelligence, just experience or attention

It’s hard to learn a new deck and not make a mistake like that due to so many special interactions between the cards. I think it could happen to anyone. Not enough people play his version (Ramp Reno Druid) for him to learn that interaction by playing against them

Also, how do you know I’m unaware of different types of intelligence?

Because, I am. I have literally researched intelligence since I was a child xD

I’m also aware that all of them share common factors, which together form the factor “g”, as in “general intelligence”, so it doesn’t really matter which types of intelligence you have more expressed. If you’re highly intelligent, you will always have a better working memory, pattern recognition and sensitivity to change than someone who is less intelligent.

Still, noone is infinitely intelligent, so mistakes like these still happen to everyone. It’s just rare to see it in my ranks because there’s not many people playing in those ranks, and because of it, there’s not many people learning new decks

It depends a lot on how new you are to the game. Even if you play for 8 hours a day it might be your first month in the game and at the same time have experience in trading card games.

In that case you could easily raise in ranks that others took years to reach but still be so extremely new to the game that you still learn “obvious” stuff to most others.

I still make mistakes like these, I think everyone does

I didn’t have any before HS, and yet I was always among the better players there. The thing is, no matter how fast you learn, the more you know, the slower and harder it gets to learn anything new, so new or old, you will catch up to me sooner or later if you have the capacity and willingness to do so.

I’m pretty sure that my learning is slow and I will make MANY mistakes like this when I learn new decks, which is why I avoid learning new decks xDD

It’s a weakness of mine, and I’d much rather have this happen to me than be resistant to change, but it is what it is. I justify that weakness something like this:

“If i constantly switch decks, I’ll never learn what I have to learn to get better, because I will have too many variables to think about all the time. When I play one deck only, I don’t, so I can focus on testing new plays and trying to understand why they work better or worse”

I’m not sure if this is the correct line of thinking, but I haven’t found a better one yet.

Not everyone is you (as I said before there are different types of intelligence). Some do mistakes by not knowing better and some do mistakes by being careless.

I do both; I’m very unpredictable on how I will fail; if I focus on one mistake I may do the next.

hahahahahahahaha, "That’s my man!

Everyone, listen to this guy

He won’t stray from the path"

this is for you Altair! i couldn’t help but laugh, all in good jest