Remember barrens meta where the top three decks were basically DR DH, face hunter and elemental shaman?
Well those deck killed control way before quest did. because you cannot survive 3 inquisitor that goes to face late game + the insane amount of tempo DH DR has. Not to mention doomhammer shaman hitting you for 22 .
We dont badmouth Hearthstone devs love child on this forums…
But feel free to make the 100000 topic about the black Sheeps of the family Priest and Mage.
what did happen for you to answers in such a completely unexpected and out of topic way ?
I don’t know what you’re talking about. Inquisitors were easily countered with taunt minions. Any one playing control who is remotely decent at the game had no problems with inquisitors before. The problem was never inquisitors, the problem is being able to OTK from hand with no counter to that.
How is it out of topic?
I talked about Demon Hunter (thats on the topic title that you say killed Control before), Mage the current best deck against Control and Priest the best viable control class that was nerfed before the expansion.
I dont see how it can be more on topic than this.
Lol. you mean, taunt minion that get deleted by the rush ability of II ? Or the other taunt minion that got smited by the board DH has on top of II, because you know, his board is super sticky and he has a legendary that cheat three sticky minions out of his deck?
Not to mention that out of the dominant deck of barren, none used taunt except… Illidan himself.
I’m talking about control deck getting deleted by burst and II prior to this expansion and you start a rambling about priest and mage.
You could hardly control either with warrior, shaman, libram paladin. All three best class were aggro, with DH having the (very complained about) inquisitor, best finisher in the game.
Not to mention priest was only getting really good in hight legend ranks.
So yeah, control was already in a terrible state before quest. not because of any combo deck, but because the three top deck in barrens were too strongs and all aggro. And two of thoses are still top tier in this meta, by the way.
I never had an issue with inquisitor in my Control Priest. Ever. Multiple taunts (clown, elemental, etc) completely destroy that deck.
dunno , never struggled as a priest vs Deathrattle DH. Facehunter also not exactly the bain of priest and Elemental Shaman had only been strong after the miniset.
Exactly
I thought you stopped playing Clowns in Priest right when Inquisitor started getting played in DR DH. The N’Zoth change to 9 mana, remember?
I tried a version that used the 10 cost colossus and the 10 cost poison rabbit for a few weeks after that.
It wasn’t near as good so I then transitioned to a deck Melphina was using, but it was never the same. But DH games were pretty much free wins unless they were running that one OTK version from hand, but those were extremely rare and practically non-existent.
Eh if it wasn’t for Quest/OTK decks in such high density DR DH was poised to have the tables turn on it with all the armor gain and defensive options from the expac.
I faced a couple with my Control Warrior and they just didn’t get there anymore, their overall damage per game was finally not enough.
All Control Warrior needed was just a little bit more armor gain and better card draw options and they got both with UiS.
Before UiS DR DH damage breakpoints per game were just a little higher than Control Warrior’s ability to deal with.
So you were countering big and the meta was going under you.
Congratulations, you built a troll deck.
I have built many myself, but I don’t brag about being able to beat decks X, Y, and Z when I gave up the meta as a whole.
I don’t know what point you’re trying to reach here since I’m not bragging. I’m simply stating Control Priest doesn’t, nor did it ever, have a problem with Inquisitors. The OP made it seem like Inquisitors were keeping Control priest at bay. I said that wasn’t true and even another person confirmed.
Then you said I stopped playing Clown Priest, which I didn’t fully, but I just adjusted it to play around and somehow I’m bragging that I built a deck?
All I said was Control Priest did not have problems with Inquisitor because of taunts that it runs and mentioned clowns and other taunts (other control priests ran other taunts). You’re the one who took it further.
Even after N’zoth nerf, Control Priest wasn’t killed because of Inquisitor. Melphina ran a control priest that did just fine against it (which I even mentioned using and thus not bragging about a deck I made).
You also know that the deck I built before N’zoth nerf was not a troll deck in any way shape or form and that people were hitting legend with it easily with high win rates.
I think you just read into things a little too much here.
clown priest was a deck living up to his name, with a super low winrate. Priest in general got gutted by elemental/doomhammer shaman. Hf getting your lightshower elemental getting hexed by lilypad lurker and eating massive weapon burst.
And priest was only performing well at hight legend, and it was basically the only control ‘‘meta’’ deck. So yeah, control was dead in 99% of the ladder after the miniset, and the nerf was the last nail in the coffin.
So, @Schyla is lying about having success with his or her or their deck?
Apparently I was just a troll the entire time.
By people you mean 3. Yourself, Melphina, and Brian Kibler.
Why do you insist on calling that deck Control Priest? When the Hearthstone community at large talks about Control Priest in Barrens they refer to a very different shell of decks that used the same 24 cards with a few different toppings. You are muddying the waters.
At least Brian Kibler didn’t call it Control Priest and called it 2 God Priest.
Because it worked just like a control deck. He only called it 2 God Priest so that it could be differentiated between the discover Control Priest deck people were running, but both decks were played like control decks.
https://hearthstone.fandom.com/wiki/Control_deck
A control deck, also known as a late game deck, is a [deck] that attempts to attain victory in the late game, through a combination of early game [removal] [Taunts], and powerful cards in the later rounds of the game. These decks focus on controlling the early game in order to survive through to the later rounds, where they can use a string of powerful spells, or a steady flow of larger minions to overwhelm the opponent.
That’s LITERALLY what my deck did.
OP is right that Deathrattle Demon Hunter was not a good match-up for control priest in FITB and it’s actually one of the reasons it became more popular in legend. Was it an auto-lose? No, but it put intense pressure on priest to discover multiple soul mirrors and answers because of how relentlessly it could refill boards.
https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-200/
https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-201/
https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-202/