There is something that I like to do in games that are close, or where the opponent has the appearance of nearly winning the game. What I will do is I will show my opponent that I had answers to his play, even if I actually had lethal. So for instance in my last game in arena I had a surprise Deathwing clear my board, but I had a Cursed Vagrant down and the guy had 6 health so I won anyway. But before I killed him I cast Brain Freeze on the Deathwing and a rush minion + Plaguebringer (give a minion poison) just to show that even if I didnât have lethal I could have answered his play in multiple different ways.
I do this because Iâve been in the other guys place where the situation has the appearance of being much closer than it actually was, and you sometimes think, man I would have won if xyz hadnât been the case. So I like to play my hand even if I have lethal so the opponent is aware that the game wasnât as close as it appeared. Even if itâs just to Shadow Word: Death their big minion before executing lethal. For a curious person such as myself I like to know these sorts of things - the what if questions, but I understand that others may feel like their face is being rubbed in it.
So what do you think Hearthstone Forums? Do you consider these situations, where you play your hand to make sure your opponent knows their loss was certain, to be BM? Or do you perhaps do it yourself from time to time?
Can you honestly tell me that youâve never had a really close game, where you ended losing, by what appeared to be the smallest margin. But your opponent still had a few cards in hand and you just wondered if you had maybe a little bit more fuel you might have had it?
I find it a little hard to believe anyone who plays this game seriously doesnât have that moment from time to time.
It becomes Bm when it is becomes excessive or you are just generating value cards just because. I will quickly dump my outs for the same reason, so my opponent can have a good idea of what they were up against, and I appreciate when my opponents do the same. That way I can see âoh good so I was playing around that and they had it the whole timeâ etc.
I wouldnât do this. I would kill straight away and well played.
The exception is when I have actions to do for a quest. I will do what I need to complete my quest before killing, if possible. (hero power, play random spells, whatever). I hope people can figure out itâs just quest actions.
If Iâm at 6, your turn and you have fireball in hand, which is the only ender anyway, just end the game, otherwise youâre not better than any other BM roper.
Definitely Bm. Donât care about how much you want to flex. If I have lethal I just end the game no need to flaunt how many different ways I had lethal.
Interesting to see the different opinions. I personally see no problem with it so long as you arenât roping the person, I try an demonstrate my outs as quite as I can and then end the game.
I suppose my mind works differently, but on the other side I would enjoy seeing the other person flaunt their outs before ending so long as they did it succinctly.
It bad manners of the other guy to assume you are bming him just for playing out the game. For many players playing out the game means aiming for a perfect victor not just a victory they is nothing in hearthstone that says everyoneâs victory considtions are the same. If you pick to never kill the other guy by attacking his face and are trying to win only via faitgue damage thatâs not bm thatâs you playing your own way that is well within your rights. In fact doing so makes it more likly for the other guy to win so he should be happy.
Just like emote spamming as much as some people think itâs bm it not as you can block it on your side to play your way while trash talk is vary much part of some peopleâs game. Has nothing to do with bad manners has everything to do with how they view competive sport. WWE is a great example of where trash talk is a key part of it.
The only things that is bad manners is needlessly wasting time. This dose not mean taking time to think every turn if you need it or otherwise. This means if you literly get up to go get a coffee after starting the game or tab out to watch a movie wasting time. Thing is you canât tell if the other guy is doing this easily as may be dc bad connection or many other reasons.
With the 2nd thing being getting in the way of anotherâs enjoyment. This can be done via harassment after the game (adding people just to be rude) or calling them unsportsmanlike or bmers for playing how they want to try to enforce there views on another. You canât claim someone spending a extra few secs or even turns to cause lethal as getting in the way of your enjoyment as at any time you can give up. If you donât than obv you think the match is not over and there actions are legit.
So really in short if you think your action is bad manners it is. If the other guy thinks your action is itâs more likly heâs the one being rude via getting in the way of your enjoyment, by trying to enforce some way you âneed toâ play. Unless the action is something that obv targets another enjoyment of the game (wasting time and harassment). Spending a few secs extra to show you have outs is not hurting there enjoyment as your intent is to give them info nothing more. It is not it demoralize or crush them. Even if it was if you enjoy that your welcome to as itâs not harassment it is only a part of the game. If they donât want to see the extra they could of left when they seen lethal.
If you have lethal on board and your opponent doesnt concede, then they have given you permission to play your hand, make unnecessary trades, and anything else. Its closer to BM for them not to concede when they are dead on board IMO.
What I meant was that if you have fireball and you start playing cards that donât change anything other than prolonging the turn, while you gonna lethal-fireball anyway, then itâs BM.
If you keep fireball for my minions in order to get me via fatigue, well thatâs another story, but that was not my point.
Pto wrestling is a bad example - what they do there is to push the BMer so theyâd get more reaction, and the nature of that reaction doesnât matter, only its volume. Get booed, get cheered, all the same, so if you can finish your opponent and they canât really react and you go bring a chair to âbreak their legâ thatâs fantastic, for everyone - the heel gets booed, the face gets pity and revenge status, and the crowd is on the edge of their seat waiting for the revenge.
But in HS? Thereâs zero watchers, no faces, no heels, no gain, just a trolling BM via prolonging the game for no reason.
P.S. when itâs a friendly game, at least between my friends and I, the amount of BM going just in our chat is ridiculous. If we play such a game, do whatever you want, however you want, weâll stay friends.
alot can happend in that turn. their internet can die, they might tunnel vision on a certain play and miss lethal (has even happend in grandmasters), they might play things in wrong sequence and miss damage (happend alot with wild pyro combos), they might rope out before they can attack due to the number of cards and animations in play (happend with combo priest, even in grandmasters)
Itâs kicking someone while theyâre already down. Itâs rubbing in your victory. Itâs bad sportsmanship.